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Is Armando Montelongo a Real Estate Guru?

Has anyone ever heard of Armando Montelongo? For the uninitiated, along with his wife–Veronica Montelongo–and a few helpers, Armando Montelongo’s work as a real estate investor / flipper is featured on the A&E Television Network’s reality show, “Flip This House,” which can been seen on Saturday evenings at 9:00 p.m. Eastern/8:00 p.m. Central on A&E. According to the A&E website, “Flip This House” is an hour-long “docu-soap” that follows the sometimes painful efforts of three real estate developers in New Haven, CT; San Antonio, TX; and Atlanta,GA, where “…each boasts a team of characters that buys homes, renovates them, then flips them for a profit.”

The Montelongos head up the San Antonio contingent, and like other reality TV personalities, Armando Montelongo appears to be looking to leverage his new found fame via the Internet. Some Internet marketing “gurus” even refer to him as “Armando Montelongo, the Internet millionaire,” but you need to take such endorsements with a grain of salt. Internet endorsements are often indirectly paid for through “affiliate” marketing; that is, one business financially rewards another for delivering paying customers.

I recently received the following report from a Flipping Frenzy reader who claims that Armando Montelongo’s company is essentially ripping him off:

I answered a radio ad for free dvd for flipping houses. It was Armando Montelongo’s Flip and Grow Rich. I gave them my credit card# for shipping. They sent a package of books and cds and dvds. All of which I had 30 days to return. I called and got a Return Authorization Number. I also got a receipt post card from the Post Office. Yet 3 months later I am seeing charges of $86.55 on my credit card statement. I have called them to no avail.

It doesn’t take much looking around to find Armando Montelongo. Each of these sites…

… eventually leads to the same pitch (captured below, sans video):

Opening shot: Montelongo drives a beautiful Mercedes Benz automobile toward the camera–presumably the car is his own, secured via all the money he makes flipping houses and teach others how to do the same. Notice that he’s driving through an industrial office park–again, presumably he has an office here, and you’ll be able to afford one here too if you follow his advice.


Scene continues: Armando Montelongo exits his car…


… and says the following, word-for-word:

“Hi, I’m Armando Montelongo from America’s #1 Hit real estate reality Show, Flip This House San Antonio. Right now I am filming my third season of Flip This House, and guess what, I’m looking for a new eager intern to teach my multi-million dollar real estate secrets to. So if you’re excited and you want to learn about real estate from the absolute best, for totally free, and get an amazing education at no expense to you, simply fill out the form below and I’ll be contacting you to see if you can qualify to be my new eager intern. Fill out the form below, and you could be my new real estate millionaire.”

Taking a look at each of Armando Montelongo’s sites, it’s easy to see why someone may choose to question his tactics:

  • Nowhere on any of his sites is there a telephone number
  • Many of his sites are packed with Google AdWords–a common tactic used by so-called Internet marketing gurus to generate additional revenue
  • There is no mention anywhere of a money-back guarantee for any of his courses, products or services
  • His video states he is looking for an intern but there’s no application, job description, or even a hint about who might qualify

On the surface, it would appear Armando Montelongo is preying on the get rich quick hopes of what low level Internet marketers call the “business opportunity” consumer. We’ve all seen “Biz Opp” advertisements, haven’t we? They can be found in the classified section of newspapers and on Craigslist, and they look an awful lot like these:

  • Earn $5,000 a WeekWorking From Home!
  • Get Real Results Fast! $250,000 1st Year! Not a Trick!
  • $$ Make $2000+ per week… EVERY WEEK! $$
  • Hottest Opportunity Ever (No Cold Calling)!!
  • Get 100 Internet sites for $8,995. Retire Early! Call 1-800-XXX-XXXX.

To be fair, I sell my own real estate investment training via books, including Flipping Houses For Dummies (published by Wiley Publishing), Protect Yourself from Real Estate and Mortgage Fraud (published by Kaplan), Foreclosure Investing For Dummies(published by Wiley Publishing), and Mortgage Myths: 77 Secrets That Will Save You Thousands on Home Financing (published by John Wiley & Sons). The big difference may be that I present real estate investing in a more realistic light. I am always careful to warn prospective investors that investing in real estate requires hard work and carries real risks (and who knows, maybe Armando Montelongo does the exact same thing, but when he uses language like “…you could be my new real estate millionaire,” one seriously has to wonder). Some people–especially those looking to get rich quick–just don’t have the mindset, resources, and support network in place to be successful at flipping houses.

Like Mr. Montelongo, I too have had my fair share of real estate failures, and I’m not one to hide or run away from them either. I tip my hat to Armando for telling it like it is (this statement can be found online via another one of his promotional videos):

When you see me on television, you get to see my successes. What you don’t see is all of the failures that I have had before I started flipping houses. It’s very easy to share your success, but much harder to share your failures with the world. However, I believe in being dirt honest and by doing so, I believe that sharing my failures will actually help you be more successful.

To be clear, I am not saying that Armando Montelongo is a person of questionable character or a real estate guru. I don’t know him personally, nor have I purchased any of his products or thoroughly reviewed his system. Who knows–perhaps he received some poor advice on positioning himself online. Maybe he himself got taken in by an Internet marketing guru who told him that this is how it’s done online. I can only ask the question: Is Armando Montelongo a real estate guru? Is the experience of the Flipping Frenzy reader mentioned above a universal one or an isolated incident?

If you or someone you know has ordered or purchased products or services from Armando Montelongo, please leave a comment to let us know about your experience.

Posted By: Ralph Roberts @ 1:57 pm Comments (324)
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  1. I found this website from the original “Flip this House” cast. Here, someone bought Montelongo’s product and reviewed it.

    Comment by Alex — December 26, 2007 @ 11:31 pm


    Comment by dorothy drake — February 3, 2008 @ 1:02 am

  3. Dorothy, I sure hope you’re taking legal action. Do you mind giving the address? I’m putting together research on his business dealings.

    Comment by Patrick N — February 5, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

  4. I just realized that I haven’t seen any comments on the criminal and civil charges he’s facing. Anyone who has had bad dealings with him need to start speaking up. My vote is NO he is no guru, just a wanna be.

    Comment by Patrick N — February 5, 2008 @ 11:54 pm

  5. There is a lot of wanna be, people out there I think that these people can’t sell home honestly so they lie and cheat to make money. As far as legal action these people are so good thay can fool anyone into beleiveing they did nothing wrong.

    Comment by Bob — February 6, 2008 @ 9:23 am

  6. I’m also investigating Mr. Montelong’s dealings in San Antonio and would appreciate any info

    Comment by Ben Bingham — February 15, 2008 @ 12:10 pm

  7. Mr. Bingham,
    You’re welcome to email me to see if I have anything new to offer that you might not already know, or if we’ve already crossed paths. This invite to email me is also extended to Dorothy Drake.
    My email is

    Comment by Patrick N — February 18, 2008 @ 3:10 am

  8. Well they are still going – and defrauding people even in Colorado> check this website out (not on your list.)

    Comment by Faithful Investigator — March 27, 2008 @ 6:43 pm

  9. David and Melina, the Montelongo’s in Colorado are no longer working with Armando, David’s brother. David and Melina wlaked out on Armando due to his questionable and down-right evil attitude.

    Comment by Paul K — April 25, 2008 @ 3:18 pm

  10. I would like to know what happened to Armando he seems to cheat everyone out of something….his people skills are to be questioned. The same for his company he is not someone I would trust good luck to all that have trusted in him. Not to be mean but if other people have to pay the court system he should too.

    Comment by Jaine D — April 27, 2008 @ 3:30 am

  11. This guy strikes me as a fast-talking shyster. It seems like he has a different set of sub-contractors on each show. Makes you wonder if he isn’t churning through them because he simply doesn’t pay them for the work they do.

    Comment by Hmmm — April 27, 2008 @ 8:59 am


    Comment by CONCERNED — May 3, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

  13. I had the misfortune of receiving Armondo’s information as a reference from a contractor. When I called this character for the contractor’s reference, he told me to “watch his show.” Not knowing who he was nor ever seeing his “show” he proceeded to tell me how famous he was and how I should again, stop what I was doing and watch his #*%$## show. It was the strangest phone call I have ever been on. He was clearly a legend in his own shower.

    Several weeks later, I was in the lobby of my bank listening to the news over the radio and heard that Armondo Montelongo was being charged with felony theft of services. I had asked my banker if he had ever heard of this character and told him of my weird phone call.

    “Do I know him, he banks here!” Needless to say we had a very interesting conversation. He made me promise to never tell anyone, so I will keep the bank and employee nameless.

    Armondo is broke. He bounces checks left and right. The bank has closed several of his accounts because he has exceeded the number of NSF’s allowed. Collection companies are constantly calling the bank trying to find Armondo.

    I thought it was hillarious they way he projected himself only to find out he doesn’t have a penny to his name. I didn’t have any idea he had defrauded so many people and there were so many people that had been taken advantage by him until now. I hope my posting helps others stay clear from this guy or at least make a more informed decision.

    Comment by A Real Busness Owner — May 13, 2008 @ 1:25 am

  14. :::. I thought it was hillarious they way he projected himself only to find out he doesn’t have a penny to his name.::: by Real Business Owner

    Karma is a you know what. ;>) The guy who ripped us off years ago isn’t doing so well, either.

    Comment by Dawn McNeilly — May 13, 2008 @ 6:41 am

  15. He has every thing in hus wifes name so thay can’t touch him. No he did not sell my house as he stated in his show. The lady that was suppost to buy it was an employ of his and not a real customer. I have been told by the neighbors that he is renting it for 1200 a month.


    No I did not take action as I have no money for a lawyer and I am on my third place to live. Just trying to survive.

    Comment by dorothy drake — May 19, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

  16. I hear all these stories about Armando, yet i havent seen anything online showing of these so called charges against him. I highly doubt A & E would allow him to continue with the show if this were something major.Everyone also forgets thats he came from nothing and worked very hard and smart to get where he is today.i think theirs a lot of jealousy out there.these people who so called dont like Armando seem to know every episode to date and give him the ratings, if you dont like who he is then move on!!I for one love the show and and believe the guy knows what hes talking about! ***** for Armando

    Comment by Brad A Brooks — May 20, 2008 @ 4:02 pm

  17. I purchased Armando’s new book that came out in March on April 3, 2008, as of today, May 20, 2008 I have yet to receive it, despite repeated emails from his so called customer service department promising me that it had been sent and would be receiving in a few days. The book costs $29.00 but the thought of being ripped off by him really burns me.

    Comment by Kevin Hudson — May 20, 2008 @ 5:52 pm


    Comment by maria soto — May 27, 2008 @ 6:55 pm

  19. This is insane! There are alot of hurt people out there by crooked real estate investors!

    Comment by Anonymous — May 31, 2008 @ 3:25 am

  20. As a real estate investor, i was surprise to see Armando was saying that his company was the leading house buyer in Texas in his first season, then in his second season they switch to the fastest growing real estate company in Texas. The change in wording led me to believe that there was something fishy.

    I have been looking to see if he is really flipping 30 houses per month. I haven’t found anything to say he is or isn’t. I just hope that before anyone spends thousands of dollars on courses, that you go online to stores like amazon and purchase books that aren’t upselling to the author courses.

    If an author is pushing a course in their book, you will not find the steak and potatoes you are looking for. I have successfully flipped houses, but it is hard work and it takes more than knowledge to flip a house. The hardest part the so called gurus aren’t telling you is, the hardest part is finding the right house to profit from.

    Good luck. Remember you can buy almost 100 books on multiple subjects of real estate investing for the cost of $1,000-5,000 courses.

    Donte from NC

    Comment by Real Estate Investor — June 5, 2008 @ 7:55 am

  21. I agree with Real Estate Investor. Real estate investing is hard work. It has risk and is not for everyone.

    How to get rich with real estate has been promoted for years via infomercials and seminars. Many of these guru’s have been shut down and many have gone to jail.

    Unfortunately, these courses make it sound simple. The many real estate seminars offerred have one main goal and that is to up sell you to more courses. Here is a link to one persons experience with just such a course. If you run across it you may want to run “from” it.

    Investor is again right when he or she says, “Remember you can buy almost 100 books on multiple subjects of real estate investing for the cost of $1,000-5,000 courses”.

    Investing of any kind has risk which is directly related to reward. The higher the return the greater the risk. We had an anomoly the past few years where real estate appreciated by leaps and bounds. Why did this happen? Because the banks gave money away making it possible for almost everyone to purchase. This created demand which in turn decreased supply, the age old economic theory of “supply and demand”.

    This increased demand created a tremendous market and opened the door to much of the fraud we have experienced. Would all this have happened if real estate appreciation was at the traditional 3% to 5%? I don’t think so.

    Be cautioned, there are more scams out there to prey on everyone’s downturns. Short Sale seminars and experts just one of them. Again, they are selling a course that in practicality only works for very few in very few isolated cases. IT IS NOT FOR THE MASSES.

    Comment by Larry Rubinoff — June 5, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

  22. I receieved my packet 2 weeks ago and was too busy at the time to review all of its contents. Until yesterday when i received a call from one of their “mentors”. He proceeded to say he had to qualify me many times during the call. I was very blunt with my replies, expecting to, at some point, disqualify me, but he didn’t. in fact he was more impressed with each response i gave him.

    About 30 minutes into the call he finally started to talk about the required education I needed. I asked him what is missing from the kit that I already bought that I needed to pay for? He said his experience and that it was the only way to keep me from making costly mistakes. So I asked him how much I needed to invest in this education and he said there were three levels (ranges), between $8k-12k, $13k-16k, $17k-20k. He asked me to choose, so I said the middle one to keep the discussion going.

    He wanted me to make a decision right then and was ready for me to commit. Naturally I thought of an excuse, saying I had no money and I had to borrow it from someone else. This bought me time and I needed to make sure I had the money ready for when his “director” called me back the next day. When he realized I was not ready to spend he had nothing else to talk about except to set up a follow up call.

    Before disconnected I asked him whats the difference between the different levels of education, he stuttered and said the difference is how many homes you sell in a month. After hanging up I realized this was yet another sceme, but I went ahead the follow up call this afternoon.

    I asked the other guy the same question and he replied with it is like going to college and deciding what kind of degree you wanted, which was a flat out lie or a very poor example. I asked him to explain it again and he abruptly said the difference was basically how much time you had to commit to the education. So 3 different answers to one question.

    I also questioned that Armando preaches over and over that time was valuable and anything other than looking for new deals had to go to other people to handle, the director agreed, so then I asked if that is the case why is he on the phone with me trying to get me to give him a bunch of money. I asked where is the value in that, if he was not out looking for the next deal he would essentially be wasting his time recruiting me. He joked back and said he only works 15 hours a week, he does this because it makes him feel good to help others. uh-huh, sure I thought.

    Finally I told him that I could not get the funds I needed cause it had rolled over in a CD before i could get it out, and then I said that it shouldn’t be a big deal cause they would obviously make back their money on my first deal, a true win/win. He laughed and said he thought I was starting to scam him.

    So again, after he found out I had no money he said he would have the first guy call me back and set up a plan to gather the funds I needed. I am still waiting for the call back.

    these guys are good at this, so beware not to get charmed into this. All the comments written above, combined with my own experience leads me to believe that I would have lost everything.

    Good luck and happy profits to you all.

    Comment by Martin — June 12, 2008 @ 7:43 pm

  23. I am a rookie real estate investor. I would just like to say that I ordered Armondo’s “Flip and Grow rich” course. I applied all his techniques and I have to say that most of them really work. Most of all I learned where to get money with “no money down”. There are actually lenders out there that loan 100% of the purchase price, repairs, closing cost, and some will even roll payments into the loan for up to 6 months. They charge very high interest rates of course but if your not paying it out of your pocket what do I care. Through researching some of these companies I found that you do need to have at least a 660 middle credit score to get approved though. The only way to get money with bad credit is to have a private investor willing to lend you the money. (Hard to find). Or buy the property owner financed.

    Also he teaches how much maximum to pay for a property, What he calls the 70% rule. Which most of the lenders go by also. (70% of the ARV, minus the repairs, minus closing cost= purchase price). He teaches where and how to find the sellers that are willing to sell at such discounted prices. He teaches how to do the rehabs, what products to use, and how to manage the contractors. From what I have seen everything he teaches is very helpfull and has worked for me so far. I am now working on my 5th flip. I made $24,000 on my first deal, $18,000 on my 2nd, $31,000 on my 3rd and $27,000 on my 4th deal. With an average time of 3 months per deal. I do agree with some of you that Armondo is very cocky. All of the scam stuff about him is all new to me that i am reading on here. Personally I dont care what kind of a person he is as long as he teaches me how to make money flipping houses legally. Some of you need to stop being so negitave though and dont be so jealous of him. I do not approve of any wrong doings he does but there is a legal way for people to flip houses and make a profit, investors have been doing it for years. I am not an expert in this field by no means but I know one thing. Real estate flipping works if you can find a good deal, can estamate costs and stick to a budget, and know how to manage your contractors. Happy flipping to you all..

    Comment by Real estate flipper — June 22, 2008 @ 5:22 am

  24. During 2007, many of the Montelongo properties that were in various stages of renovation and preparation for sale became listed for foreclosure due to mortgage non-payment. Despite claims by Armando Montelongo that these properties were “not mine” and belonged to his brother David, there is no evidence of this whatsoever and the properties were solely in Armando’s name. More than 20 properties in Armando’s name were foreclosed by VCH funding. [8]

    On February 21, 2008, Armando Montelongo was indicted by a Travis County grand jury on a “theft of service charge.” It is alleged he failed to pay over $4,000 in fees to an appraisal service. If convicted, Montelongo faces 2 years in state prison.[9][10] As of June 2008, Montelongo had managed to postpone the proceedings several times, but will not likely be able to do so much beyond June of 2008.

    In April of 2008, a civil suit was filed in Bexar County, TX by Mirko Desabota against Armando Montelongo for fraud in real estate transactions, breach of fiducuary duty, securities fraud, and associated damages stemming from a deal into which Desabota entered with Montelongo to remodel properties. In the complaint, Desabota describes a document which Montelongo wanted him to sign absolving Montelongo of all liability in the matter. Numerous parties involved with Montelongo who subsequently filed complaints against him (including Linda Gass, the appraiser who Montelongo is facing 2 years in state prison for not paying $4000) also describe being pressured to sign such “settlement agreements” by Montelongo.

    Comment by Kevin — June 24, 2008 @ 2:28 pm

  25. Why hasn’t anyone brought this to the attention of the local district attorney, local t.v. stations, or the state of Texas real estate board? My god, it took him six months to close dorothy drake’s escrow? People in unsafe houses. I would have said, Boom! Outta here! Then again maybe you guys in Texas did, and that is why he’s headed my way in Southern California.

    Comment by SoCal Realtor — July 9, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

  26. Looks like Veronica isn’t exactly clean either. She and Armondo have a history of tax delinquencies that go back a long ways. I would also question the 2003 divorce motivation. It looks like they filed for a divorce to buy time to transfer assets out of his name to hers and then he withdrew the court action. Veronica is pretty well known around the lower end of San Diego for her “dancing” in the old days.

    Before investing with these guys, check some court records in Texas and California. I ind it very hard to believe that there are two sets of people with the same names running the same scams in two states over a period of 10 years.

    Here is one example from Bexar County Tx. There are a bunch more naming Armondo.

    Cause Number: 2008TA100830
    Litigant Type: DEFENDANT

    Court: 224
    Date Filed: 03/13/2008

    Comment by Real Estate Commissioner — July 11, 2008 @ 1:29 pm

  27. This really sucks. I watch the show everytime its on and the Montelongo’s motivate me. Now to see that its all a bunch of crap really bothers me. I am getting my real estate license and have great long term goals. I really admired Veronica and Armondo….they came from the same situation I am getting out of. I purchased my first home to live in and flip at the same time. My time period, however, is three to five years, so the property can also appreciate on its own, with the improvements we are making to it (doing the work ourselves).
    I was taking tips from “Flip this House” but now I dont know what to do. Do I believe them? Were they really broke or is that just a lie to get people like me suckered in?

    Comment by Ally — July 12, 2008 @ 12:43 pm

  28. Alot of people say they were in the same situation as other people but the only way to know is do research.
    Someone once said trust but verifiy.

    Comment by Bob McNeillly — July 12, 2008 @ 5:37 pm

  29. I really enjoy watching Armando and Veronica. I believe people are jealous because some people are sucessful and other people just cant manage money. He deals with alot of people and houses everyday, and if he was ripping people off then it would be more then just 4000.00 just one time………. think about it people!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by MELINDA Mc. ohio — July 15, 2008 @ 11:08 am

  30. Good lord, Melinda! Do you think people are making it up that he owes back taxes, and he’s been indicted, and he cheated people out of their homes, and that he’s a shameless huckster? Get real! Scammers like Armando and Veronica Montelongo exist and blogs like this help to warn people. Open your eyes!

    Comment by SoCalGal — July 19, 2008 @ 1:41 am

  31. My son and I watch flip this house to learn. No we are not flippers.

    We are property locators. We find this hard to believe, but it sounds true. We came to his web site to find a way to call him. You see we have this mansion in Grand Rapids,MI for sale at 4,000,000 market value at 12,000,000 with one investor in for 1,500,000. And We were going to ask him if he wanted in. This is nice to find out this way and not get let down again. So if there are any honest investors out there who is interested in getting 2.000,000 in equity plus 8,000,000 profit

    Comment by Alan Aerts — July 19, 2008 @ 4:10 pm

  32. Everyone! Be aware that there are certain people publishing on this blog that seem to me to be either the Montelongos themselves or someone in their employ. It’s clear from other blogs that certain posts on them originated from the same IP address located in San Antonio. Each had a different poster name and all indicated how much the course they purchased helped them. It would be nice to understand from the site master of this blog if MELINDA Mc. and especially Real Estate Flipper have originated from the same IP address and/or city.

    Comment by Scam Spotter — July 21, 2008 @ 5:42 pm

  33. To Scam Spotter:

    Thank you for asking about the connectedness of two of the people who have chosen to comment on this particular post. “MELINDA Mc. ohio” and “Real estate flipper” are not one in the same, according to our records.

    Comment by Editor's Note — July 21, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

  34. I ordered the book on June 30th 2008. I have yet to recieve it.

    If you read this ARMANDO I WANT MY F*&%ing book. I went through my bank statement on the date I was charged and there is a phone number 1-800-771-0593 when I call there is an answering service from Long Island that has nothing to do with the product ( it was a basement finishing business).

    My question is, Who is responsible for delivering the promised product and What should I do as a consumer that feels has been lied to and scammed? Ohhhhh!!! I guess I am going to consumer affairs. I need to add that from what I have seen so far this product is garbage. I guess Armando needs the money more than I do to pay for all of the law suites coming to him in the near future.

    Comment by Joseph — July 22, 2008 @ 2:24 am

  35. I purchased his book—which you have to download. you do not actually get a bound book (which I thought I was purchasing). When I emailed them I had not gotten my book, they replied promptly and explained that it is a download. Perhaps the person above is not aware of that. I have about 150 pages, of lots of information. I have personally read alot of flipping books and have to say that Armando’s book does have some good insight. I was not dissatisfied!

    Comment by Debbe Hobbs — July 27, 2008 @ 8:34 pm

  36. Comment to Faithful Investigator and Paul K:

    While Paul K is correct the Montelongos in Colorado are the brother and sister-in-law, David and Melina, Faithful Investigator is correct, they are ripping people off. They have learned well at the knee of a master and have hooked up with some real bad actors!! The property they are offering is a bad flipping scheme involving a construction to perm program which is part of a series of flipping schemes that were done by these folks and others in the same county. Many of which are now in foreclosure, many without so much as a building permit.

    Don’t be fooled. This is a really bad deal. This Montelongo isn’t any better than the other.

    Comment by inthesameboat — July 29, 2008 @ 2:20 pm

  37. I called on a telephone ad to get a free dvd on flipping and was asked to try the entire program and I could return it if I wanted to. However, they did not allow me to return the materials. Then I received several phone calls about joining their “coaching” program. After many conversations, they were not happy that I decided not to pay them $22,000 for the one-year course. All paid upfront via my credit card or automatic withdrawal from my checking account. It was the latter that caused me to stop and rethink what I was getting myself into. Why no payment plan?? Why no pay as you go? This was a huge investment with no contract or other written agreement of what I was getting for the $22,000 they were asking to take from me immediately. They were your normal pressure salesman that you have been chosen and if you don’t respond right now, you can’t participate. Well, I cut my losses, but I am still unhappy that I was unable to return the program as I was promised.

    Comment by Ruth — July 30, 2008 @ 6:18 pm

  38. If you search the online records of the Bexar County (San Antonio) Tax Assessor’s office, you won’t find a single property owned by Montolongo. Not even his own residence.

    Comment by Armando — August 8, 2008 @ 4:05 pm

  39. RE: Comment by Joseph — July 22, 2008
    Joseph…get in touch with your bank immediately. They may be able to do a chargeback on the bebit to your account. Tell them it was fraud and you should also look at the federal gov’t site and see if you can take some action with them since they are scamming you using your bank account. It will take a little bit of your time…but it may be worth your efforts.

    Comment by me — August 9, 2008 @ 1:19 pm

  40. Like you , Joseph, I had trouble reaching the Montelongo Co. using the number that appeared on my bank statement. It was a typo, and they have corrected it now. You can reach them at 1-800-771-6593.

    Comment by Onlinebemore — August 10, 2008 @ 4:44 pm

  41. Regarding Montelongo’s lack of real estate holdings in Besar County, you have to spell the last name correctly. You can find several properties held by Armando Montelongo Jr.

    Comment by LESLIE — August 14, 2008 @ 2:26 pm

  42. I purchased the Montelongo’s Real Estate product for $997 April of 2007. To my surprise, it was anything but “Real” Estate. I never recived the product even after 6 months of trying to communicate via e-mails. Their only single response was for me to update my address. Unfortunately, due to my inexperience I trusted the company and paid a huge financial price for it. The Montelongo Company does not advertise a customer service toll free number and I doubt they have a live person that answers any questions or concerns/complaints via the internet. I am very upset that a person like Mr. Montelongo would get away with so many fraudulent activities, where is the law in all this and why is this guy still out on the streets? I guess it’ll take him skipping on his taxes for the Governement to put a stop to this! I do highly disbelieve however, his wife agrees with what he does. My compliments to Mrs. Montelongo for sticking with a crook through some very trying times. Everyone has their breaking points. I wonder when will be Mrs. Montelongo’s? RB

    Comment by Rene Bermudez — August 15, 2008 @ 3:54 pm

  43. Armondo get a life-you name/wife/kid/corporation’s are all over that website. Get a life and quit ripping people off you loser

    Comment by susie — August 16, 2008 @ 7:26 pm

  44. Can anyone advise if they have attended one of Armandos seminars? I am thinking about it until I read that Armando poss will not be the primary speaker. There is a 250.00 gas card give away just for attending however i feel whats the catch. Please advise anyone?

    Comment by Cheryl — August 22, 2008 @ 2:46 pm

  45. I just attended one of Armando’s seminars and he is the last speaker for about 1.5 hrs. the first 8 hrs are different seminars you can puchase. They go from $3500 to $49. You do get a gas card from You get $25 per month for 10 months.

    Comment by Rick — August 23, 2008 @ 6:02 pm

  46. I signed on for the coaching, after they put me in touch with another “student” in my town, who offered to work on a few deals with me. After I paid them, I did not get any return calls from this student although I see he is doing testimonials for Armando. The two individuals who sold me the program additionally have not returned my calls. I found some discrepancies among what the coaches have to say. I also have not been able to work the REO market successfully, although the “student” claims to have made a ton of money from them.

    When I asked the coaches how two people in the same town could have such diverse results, they informed me that there are “alot of investors” bidding for REO’s right now. What does that have to do specifically with my question??? I just lost my husband and have bills yet to be paid. When I signed up, they assured me that I’d make enough money to take care of my expenses. I’ve been working their program and don’t see much potential. I want to get my money back so I can pay off my husbands’s funeral expenses. Help!

    Comment by Annoula — September 4, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

  47. i have read the books and i think the program will work if you put the time and effort into it.

    Comment by shane — September 9, 2008 @ 3:11 pm

  48. Didn’t anyone else see the tv show? Or am I the only one? My first impression was “What A *****ball ” Turns out, he is more than a *****ball, he is an accomplished con artist. I underestimated him.

    Comment by Catter — September 16, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

  49. Like they say there’s an ass for every seat and this board seems to be full of them.
    I know people that would kill you over $2 just on principal alone.
    Go file in small claims court and then have him served while he is speaking. That will get you the press you want.
    It amazes me how many want to flip a house and not do work.
    Even on tv they do it all wrong. 1# call for a 30 yard #2 get busy yourself or hire the mexicans to clean and gut the place, while doing that you should be making your punch list and ordering materials and getting permits.
    I seen more time wasted tripping over shit on that show.

    Comment by Nobodysfool — September 20, 2008 @ 11:51 pm

  50. I ordered his book and they sent a whole package of additional materials. The book does have some benefecial insight. We did successfully return the products and were not ripped off. I also invest and rehab homes. We never put homes in our name, we put them in Trusts- for several reasons -mostly to remain anonymous- Many wise investors practice this. For those that he claims to have cheated- pursue him with legal action. If there is truly a cause, an agressive attorney will go after this big fish. Hope this is helpful.

    Comment by dean allen — September 24, 2008 @ 3:28 pm

  51. I like Armando but I disagree with his teaching it can be done any where in the nation.

    I believe if he came to the NYC area there is no way in hell he can do a flip on a 4 bedroom 2 bath for 16,000.00 budget. I think location has a lot to do with it, things maybe very cheap out in TX but the TriState area is not so.

    I am trying to flip a house in Trenton NJ and the repairs are costing me so much that in today market I will need to hold on to the home and just rent it out.

    He is correct about American Real Estate having a Fire Sale right now, it is so cheap out there it is just crazy, I am not into taking peoples homes though not like he teaches. I want everyone to benefit from any deal I do.

    Comment by jonie — September 26, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

  52. Not only is Armando an a**hole, so are his people selling his crap. I responded to his radio ad for the “free” DVD, and subsequently accepted his Flip and Grow Rich package for a 30 day trial. The material is crap, not worth the $400 price tag (5 credit card charges of $79.95) by a long shot, barely worth $10. As an example, you make your money when you buy right, and foreclosures are the best place to buy. This wonderful program contains a whopping 5 paragraphs on foreclosures. Basically, it says foreclosures are great, you should find and buy them. That’s about it. Nothing on how to use the county clerk’s records, or even that the clerk is where you can look. But the real winner is how they cram the program down your throat. If you are even one day over when their tracking program says it was placed in your mailbox, you are stuck with it and they will not allow you to return it. They also fight any disputes on payment, and the person you talk to in the sales office is also the supervisor (no matter who you speak to), and the only person higher to speak with is Armando, and he doesn’t speak to anyone. These are some real pieces of canine excrement, /Caveat Emptor/ doesn’t even begin to cover it. I really hope someday his a**hole practices land on him like a ton of bricks.

    Comment by Mark Coney — October 1, 2008 @ 2:51 pm

  53. I think the topic of his seminar’s can be boiled down simply by looking at the two types of people involved… SCUMBAG’S like Armando who would con their grandmother out of her gold fillings if it got him a buck and LAZY IDIOT’S like those of you who thought for a thousand dollars they would recieve some magic charm to make them rich. I watch the show but stopped watching when it was in TX because I figured pretty quick that Armando was a scumbag. Before you buy his books or training watch the show and you’ll learn all you need: 1) buy houses from desperate or ignorant people on the cheap 2) find cheap labor and “charm & hammer” them until their cheaper (mabye don’t pay them) 3) take short cuts that save money (if you think you don’t need permits for most of the things he’s doing you’re just the idiot that should give that scumbag thousands 4) sell the glamour. You don’t need seminars and books to teach you how to be like Armando, just check your morals at the door and realize that how much you’re worth is more important than the type of person you are. I’d be happy to share more but that’ll cost you 2 grand… :>)

    Comment by Derrick — October 20, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

  54. What happended with Armando’s criminal case in Texas?
    Does anyone know? I think the only cure for Armando’s scamming is 30-60 days in the hole. I spent some time there in my youth for growing weed(small time pre – college stuff), and I can tell you, guys like Armando get their ass-kicked every day in Jail. I know this sounds horrible, but we used to beat guys like Armando just for something to do to break up the boredom. As for Veronica, is it true she used to be an “exotic” (nude) dancer in San Diego? She should go back to that before the looks go.

    Comment by jhs — October 21, 2008 @ 2:47 pm

  55. American Entrepanuer is this scammers’ new moniker (currently being used in the Inland Empire Southern of California). I attended his “seminar” on Oct 20, 2008, got my $250 gas card. Various speakers tell you how to flip foreclosures at $1,997.00 per kit plus a 3-day workshop with access to staff 24/7 for 90 days to help close deals etc.; buy tax liens on properties for investment at $2,997.00 for kit plus workshop; and, get government loans for starting up or exsisting businesses for $997.00 for kit. ALL OF THIS IS A SCAM!!!! You can get this info from real estate classes, internet, or Barnes and Noble. I wish the FEDS or someone could arrest this guy. I’m told he is in L.A. somewhere now. GOOD LUCK to you guys looking for him. Don’t buy anything from this guy, and, pass the word!

    Comment by dee — October 22, 2008 @ 10:29 am

  56. I would love to have you come to are auction in Dallas and see if you can flip any of our assets that we are auctioning off in Dallas on the 25th of Oct come down and see what nice porperties we have for you

    Comment by The Man — October 23, 2008 @ 11:44 am


    Travis County, Texas
    Case# D1DC07302376
    Charge: Felony theft of service
    Date: Nov 10, 2008

    Comment by jhs — October 23, 2008 @ 4:32 pm

  58. The phone number to Assmondo’s business is 866-427-3041.

    Be creative, play to their greed. Tell them you are calling from a a media outlet (Newpaper, radio T.V etc), and that you are doing a story on the Effects of the economic downturn on the flipping market. As you are transferred around make sure you ask for the name and phone nomber of anyone you talk to,” just in case you are disconnected”.

    Let a day or two pass and them start calling the bastards on their direct lines until they want you to go away. Be clear that you will only stopp calling when you get your refund.

    If you get a fax number out of anyone – post it on this site. It could come in handy.

    Comment by jhs — October 23, 2008 @ 4:51 pm

  59. Yea I purchased his flip and grow rich series and I, unlike some of the idoits here, was extremely pleased with it! It was jam packed with useful information on the world of Real Estate! I don’t know if these idoits that aren’t happy with it just aren’t smart enough to understand someone talking about real estate and it’s upsetting to them or what. But for those of you who do have have a brain, and can understand simple english, should definately get the series it’s worth every cent!

    Comment by Bobby — October 31, 2008 @ 4:11 am

  60. Refund.

    Those of you that are looking for a refund, look at regulation “Z” to see if that will help you get your money back. Just Google it. That’s what I just did to check out this guy and found all of this about him. Sound real estate investment principles remain the same. People like these come and go, just like in the 70’s and 80’s.


    Comment by MrLeeehh — November 1, 2008 @ 11:00 am

  61. Hey Bobby,

    Make any money yet? How many homes have you flipped this month? I think that you’re just Armando or one of his accomplices posting fake announcements to this blog.

    If I am corect, how is the Criminal case coming along? November 11th. is a week away and that means Court time and possibly jail time for Armando (you).

    Comment by jhs — November 5, 2008 @ 1:34 pm

  62. All I have to say is that as soon as Veronica realizes she is married to a loser scam artist she will leave him. Maybe she can give me a holla and I will take care of her like a queen should be taken care of.

    Not only is that woman hot she seems to be a good person caught up with socio-path.

    Comment by JayCarl — November 6, 2008 @ 10:57 am

  63. what does this guy know about anything. whenever someon like armando comes around with informercial, it does not have any legitimacy. there absolutely is no truth to anything for marketing on television. people who get caught up on those beliefs are crazy. there are no self made millionaire take anything on tv seriously. i am not rich but i definately do not believe in anyopne offering free help unless they are a longterm philanthropy type of person who care about people more and money second.

    Comment by jlove — November 8, 2008 @ 11:43 am

  64. JayCarl,
    Veronica used to be an “Exotic Dancer” in SoCal prior to hooking up with Assmondo Scamalongo. She is no innocent schoolgirl.
    But that might be just what you are in need of LOL!!!

    Comment by jhs — November 9, 2008 @ 2:23 am

  65. Wow, I cant believe he is still in business. I’ve been in the flip/real estate business for close to 18 years, and I have to tell you, it is a lot of work. When I heard him say he was flipping 30 plus homes per month , I just knew he was a fake. Having that many flips would require a crew of about 50plus employees. And from the few episodes I’ve seem of his ,ahhh, show , I doubt he has any permanent construction employees. Unfortunately, most people will take what a TV personality says at face value. I’ve worked with investors that have 200 plus properties and you know what they told me when I first started in the business. “this the get rich slow business”. I didn’t quite understand when they told me that, but after many years in the business I full understand. The last 5-6 years were a fluke. With todays Real Estate market you better account for all expenses otherwise you are look for trouble. When some one tells you they have a property with $100 positive cash flow, you better run. Dont let them sell you on the fact that the $100 is your profit, one vacancy and there goes $2000.00 for eviction costs, rehab, and vacancy time. I’ve passed up deal that were sold to me as ,”having $40,000 equity”. after crunching the numbers, I would of probably lost 440,000 after holding costs,Realtor commissions, repair cost, buyer concessions etc. Learn to fully analyze a property and never trust an Realtor (ok maybe just question them). I’ve had my share of lawsuits, and that is just part of the business, but due diligence in golden.

    Comment by flipping2.0 — November 11, 2008 @ 1:30 pm

  66. so what, if anything, can anyone do that purchased his program and, though educational to the newbie, can not find it useful? It has been a rather expensive education $8K+

    Comment by ricm — November 21, 2008 @ 3:11 pm

  67. Sue Assmondo for fraud. File a criminal complaint. Tell the AG of your state what happened. Put the guy out of business and into jail.

    Comment by jhs — November 22, 2008 @ 1:54 pm

  68. I just saw his infomercial earlier and thought he seemed like a nice guy. But, after reading all the comments here, which I’m glad I did, I can now see the Jackle and Hayde that he really is (unfortunately). Does anyone here recommend a web site or person(s) with experience who has done flipping? How about John T. Reed (or not)?. Any other suggestions?

    Comment by Dave M — November 28, 2008 @ 7:08 am

  69. I have some info on him. His hard money lender foreclosed on 27 houses he owned in April 2007. Also, he overpays for his houses. One time he was competing against me for a repo I tried buying. Instead of bidding low, he offered full price, which made no sense to me. Later this house was one of the 27 he was not able to sell, I assume because he paid too much for it and tried selling it for quite a bit more than retail. I’ve been flipping in San Antonio for ten+ years and he never seemed genuine to me. Rather he seems like someone who attended a real estate seminar and upon graudation became an ‘expert’. I could be wrong, but I think he had a Ponzi scheme going and now it may finally have caught up to him. He’s burned a few lenders on this way. He’s being sued by an appraiser for somewhere around $3K. What millionaire can’t afford to pay that? I just don’t know why the attorney general hasn’t gone after him like William McCorkle…?

    Comment by Joe Covert — December 12, 2008 @ 9:05 am

  70. I paid the $8,700 for their books and classes but was unable to attend due to health issues. I called and ask for a refund and was told by their Director of Customer Service they offer no refunds. I would gladly join others in a class suit against this _ _ _ hole. The directors name is Ryan Phillips 800-771-6202 ext 115. I’m certain it won’t be long before his number changes.

    Comment by Gary — December 17, 2008 @ 8:20 pm

  71. I can not get off the mailing list though I have tried many times to delete myself off the “forever and always” list that he advertises. I inspect houses and see houses that go into forclosure and bankruptcy on a daily basis. I laugh at how easy it is to find a house in forclosurer and that he wants to have someone PAY HIM for that information? Are you kidding me? When this show was on the air my husband and I commented that he had to be getting houses buy buying them at over-inrlated prices. Too many things that he did seemed down right under handed if not illegal. I hope that he is caught and he is put where he belongs. I am sorry about his wife. I do not believe she is as dumb and people make her out to be. I believe she knows exactly what he is up to. While she may not be in on the legal misdealings, she certainly knows he is underhanded and unethical.

    One of the emails I got tonite is advertising that his book is being rep-printed again the first of the year. Lovely, it wasn’t bad enough the first time ? Or wait, perhaps they left the e publisher in the lurch? At any rate, I can almost see the sweat pouring off his face. Hear the footsteps running behind you Montelongo? I am not surprised you ran away. The only one I feel sorry for is his son being raised by him. My all time episode was the one he got his boy smashing windows that they couldnt replaced the windows in because it was too expensive. So Armondo acted like a 3 yr old and threw a tantrum and broke the windows out. That was it for me, I knew then he was a real CREEP!

    Comment by CAT — December 31, 2008 @ 12:54 am

  72. Here is a key link to the cadre of people involved.

    Comment by run — January 7, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

  73. Wow! I am amazed at all I read here! I just opened my credit card bill and found out AM had been charging me $29.95 per month the last two months! I had NO IDEA that I’d signed up for anything. All I did was buy his book after hearing it on the radio and explicitly telling them “I only want the book, nothing after that” “I do not want ANY FURTHER CHARGES on my credit card, to which they agreed. ” They then kept calling me on my cell phone, always at a time I couldn’t talk -picking up a child at school bus, couldn’t hear very well, but apparently, they were ALWAYS recording me, I apparently DID NOT say NO to a $29.95/mo. HELP LINE so therefore, according to them, ‘I agreed to it!’. (They played the taped call for me! Apparently they wait for you to NOT say NO as proof you signed up for something!) OUTRAGEOUS! My Credit card company gets it, have taken off the charges, and if disputed by AM, I will send my credit card company ALL the huge online bad press he gets including SEVERAL stories identical to my own for their dispute of the charges. I liked his show and I guess I was conned to think he was an honorable person, albeit extremely arrogant. If anyone else is interested in a class action against this creep, please post the attorney’s contact info so we can all join in. This is too much! I am VERY angry. It cannot be legal to automatically bill someone’s credit card without their knowledge or explicit permission!

    Comment by AMY — January 31, 2009 @ 3:37 am

  74. Mr. Montelongo has been cleared of the Theft of Service charges. Way to go, guys. Assume guilty til proven innocent. That surely is the American way…..Yikes

    Comment by Myrtle — February 2, 2009 @ 2:17 am

  75. Cleared of one of how many lawsuits against him?

    Comment by run — February 3, 2009 @ 8:26 pm

  76. Real estate flipper is a LIAR. he most likey works fer tha scammer. all get rich quick programs are a SCAM! when will people learn?

    Comment by the GOD slayer — February 10, 2009 @ 8:08 am

  77. This absolutely fascinates me!!
    I am by no means in anyway shape or form associated with AM.. I am a single mom who just got layed off and now have to try to figure out how to eliminate some costs. I was thinking about buying the book just to purchase a property so I can live in and fix up cheaper house other than the rent in my apt would be.

    I guess each and everyone of you have called a service tech out to work on your home and went with their asking price without shopping around.. went to a car dealership and gave them the price they wanted without trying to negotiate a deal. If that is the case, I will sell you my Harley and Mustang for 30 grand. Both are in mint condition. (this is in re to AM messing with contractors)

    I have been looking at houses for the past 40 days… some flippers that have put them together, some forclosures… they look like sheet. Every “flipper” did not learn from AM. The majority of the flipper houses are bull%%%%. Spend a little bit more money and do the job right.
    What I have learmed on my own is that every house is different. Everything depends on the location. One place may be worth 200 grand and require granite countertops, another may be worth a potential 100 grand and formica is ok.

    As for his lawsuit… I personally dont care. There was obviously something deeper otherwise he wouldnt have walked. He couldnt have had the dream team, Johnny has passed on.

    As for his wife being a stripper?… Yall are like little children in a candy store. You are digging deep to hurt someone. Kirk Gibson and Dave Rosema met their wives in a strip club. My best friend also met his wife there… she did it to help her children and pay for her college. Solution would be to quit going there. If you dont participate, they dont get paid.

    I agree when it comes to get rich quick… I was burned by Dave Espino* ebay sheet. They took 29.95 off my credit card for 3 months with no results. No help other than if I wanted to learn more I could spend 1 grand for premier service/ 500 for gold.

    Comment by Autumn — February 11, 2009 @ 11:53 am

  78. Credit card scams, are bad news.
    Books with little information are not so good.
    Local book stores, with shelves & shelves with books on every subject/sub-subject are stocked with a chair or two, pick a book-read a chapter or two—FOR FREE!!!!! If one catches your fancy-buy it. $15 to $50.
    I found a author that I liked the way he talked (wrote), looked him up on J.T. Reed– found some negative comments. Said the author did not tell anything someone could not find for themselves. I don’t know about you, but time is money-if there is a book with good content, organized well– I will pay for some one to do research for me, $14 to $30 a book.
    This author has done me some good.
    But, some one like Armando M-not shipping the promised product, or engaging in some credit card scam is not right.
    Sorry for all of you who fell for this sort of attack on your civil rights.
    Just realize that a library is free. And most book stores will let you pull up a chair and read a few chapters-even a spot on the floor is good for a few chapters.
    There is enough info in several books to start your own venture in any endeavor.
    Just realize that most of these unscrupulous barkers are only selling info for as cheap as possible for the most they can get out of you.
    These people have been around for centuries- same old intent; to part you of your money. It is not enough for the Law enforcers to guard you. They are only good for after the fact.
    Knowledge is golden, start with a trip to the library.
    Your computer is a key–go online to the state web site where you live; search for BILLS ( HOUSE BILLS- SENATE BILLS) read up on Real Property Laws, you will gain more knowledge than these gurus are trying to sell you as factual tricks and tips.
    Like, contractors have to register with the Secretary of State. No excuse for being ripped off by fly by nite remodelers.

    Comment by they say we say — February 12, 2009 @ 4:12 am

  79. I have watched the show numerous times . The Davis group was a class act and I miss them . Notice how they always checked for termintes and mold ect at the beginning ? And they figured the remeady into the cost .

    Azzmondo Montelongo couldnt care less if he sold someone a moldy termite infected home . Time after time its all about the kill and getting $$$. He treats his wife and his workers like crap. Can you imagine his actions off camera? He probably hits her .

    I am not surprised that this loser is broke . I hope they put him in jail for all his scams . No wonder his brother got fed up and left . He may not be honest either. But Azzmondo probably ripped him off also.

    The lady who was ripped off and now homeless. Did you file your paperwork with the courts ? You may not need an attorney . If you have all your paperwork and can show he didnt pay you what he was suppossed to . Good luck .

    Comment by Homeowner midwest — March 7, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

  80. LOL @ that comment made by “Myrtle”. *cough*Armondo*cough* Next time don’t be so obvious, genius!

    Assmondo is a real life scam artist and should be sent away for his crimes. I feel for the people that this dude ripped off. Apparently he knows nothing of karma or he wouldn’t be doing what he does. How can you live with yourself, Chubs?

    Comment by Brian R. — March 14, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

  81. Uhh-ohhhh… I just bought his system from the infomercial for ($9.95 plus $5 shipping. ) I just received it and have began to read it. So far so good although there are a couple examples where he tells you “in order to acquire a property in this one particular way, expect to pay $XYZ for XYZ costs/fees. Do whatever to get it… borrow it from a friend, brother, sister, whoever.” ….. He says something to that effect. After reading that… I’m now a little nervous. I’m gonna continue reading to give it full benefit of doubt. I do see potential from doing this type of work. I have seen others here doing it. I think like anything else, you just go about it smart. I live in Hawaii so honesty & integrity are big factors here being a State w/small islands & tight-knit communities, so a bad reputation would get around quickly here.
    So… like I said, I will give it a full read before I determine if I should send the material back & get a refund, just or go for it!
    Wish me luck (better yet… say a prayer for me?)

    Comment by George — March 15, 2009 @ 9:42 am

  82. Isn’t AM in California now? Anyone have his address or phone number, I’d love to pay him a visit.

    Comment by James Rockford — March 16, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

  83. Armando may have some issues, but, his principals have been applied for years. My dad got started flipping houses during the Great Depression at the ripe old age of 15! He did it by throwing paper routes and was supporting his mother. If you want to check this out another way to flip properties on the cheap get a book called No Money Down. It was published in the 60’s and it is still valid today.

    Best Of Luck!
    Marc Foster, MH

    Comment by Marc — March 22, 2009 @ 2:46 pm

  84. Hello,
    You guys should not be so suprised that these TV Personalities are a complete scam. Remember Don Lapree’s making money package or Carlton Sheet’s Real Estate course? My apologies if I mispelled these. The boob tube is the same source of nonsense that feeds us the ridiculous daily news and keeps us asleep about what our government is really up to and guilty of. Can anyone say bailout bonus? I prefer to trade stocks myself. at least you can trade on paper until you feel your successful enopugh to put some money on the line. These so called experts are looking to move in on you for five or six figures at a time. They all probably meet somewhere together in secret to discuss the next new trend in get rich quick scams. It’s like the Counsel on Foreign Relations for rippoff artists. As if that’s not what politicians are (rippoff artists). Go Joebama! Just keep that wool over your eyes and you’ll be jus fine.

    Comment by James — March 24, 2009 @ 4:38 am

  85. The problem with the general public is that there are so many people willing to be scammed. Scam artists can only succeed if we let them. The average person should know that you cannot succeed without hard work and determination. However, they let thoughts of getting rich quick, having the best body and keeping a sparkling clean colon consume their daily thoughts. In todays economy doesn’t having a decent job, a healthy family and a weekend to do absolutely nothing sound like the best deal.

    Comment by AverageJoe — March 25, 2009 @ 4:10 am

  86. I bought the AM books. I found them interesting. Some good info that I did not know. Alot of the info did not apply to me as I am a contractor. I have bought other flipping books and figure that there is some useful info to be found in most of them. You just need to glean out what you can use.
    I have been contacted by his “team” and they have done alot of asking questions about my financial state. “Do you have access to a line of credit? Do you have any credit cards that have available balance that you can use” How much money do you have in the bank? How much money do you want to make? Are you ready to create wealth?” All these questions to “qualify” me to see if they want to take me and make me a success story. The more he talked the more I thought “this must cost alot of money the way he is building this up. I cut him off before he got to the money part but I would have laughed at him if I had been told to give him 8K when I have never met him and there was no garantee on anything. If they contact you RUN!!

    Comment by Ronbob — March 26, 2009 @ 10:46 pm

  87. Well put Ronbob

    Comment by Marc — April 4, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

  88. There is always an element of greed involved for a person to be ripe to be ripped off. Promises of huge gains for just a little “investment”. LOL….the money isn’t in the flipping for Armondo…its is the selling of his “how to flip for profit” scam. Can stay at home and collect money. He’d have to work up a sweat getting poor workers to do his dirty work for nothing.
    My grandparent’s had an old saying. If it looks too good to be true, it usually is. Words of wisdom now as they were back in the 1940’s.

    If anything, the show has taught me to steer away from anything that has been “updated”. So many corners were cut, problem area’s covered over & paint slapped on. I feel bad for the people finally stuck with these properties. They won’t pass inspections for banks to remortgage these homes. Banks in the U.S. are going to be very careful about what they are putting money into from this point on. They have the American taxpayer to answer to now that all the bailout money has been handed over.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 26, 2009 @ 1:45 pm

  89. I too now think maybe you people are mostly jealous of Armando because he’s rich, famous, good looking, and has a hot wife. In addition to rehabbing and providing quality properties to the common people at market prices, Armando creates good jobs for construction crews.
    Armando doesn’t need to worry about nonsense like permits and inspections; have you seen how good his crews are? Those houses look better than new when he is done!
    Ans Veronica is hot, yes she is!
    You are all jealous and angry because Armando is doing what you would like to be doing—if you had the drive and guts!

    Comment by Mega Flipper — April 30, 2009 @ 4:59 am

  90. I just perchased Armando’s book and his mentering system. I expect that soon I will be rich like Armondo. I think Armando is a great man and he gives back to the people by making others rich too. You know he doesnt have to do this he’s already rich and doesn’t need to make money on books and his mentering system. He does it to give back to the peoples. He probly looses money on these training deals his time is so costly.

    Comment by Lenny — April 30, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

  91. What is there to be “jealous” about anyway? Simply pointing out the facts of the matter. One episode had him hiring a group of people, looked like family members that couldn’t speak english – the youngest boy (about 8 or 9) translated for the workers. They had this child pulling out rubble of the crumbling foundation of a DYI addition on the back of a house. What kind of honest, above board businessman would allow this to happen? I think the pending lawsuits speak for the lawfulness of the man’s so-called business dealings.
    The man’s actions say he doesn’t have a code of ethics whatsoever. Anybody that would be in awe of this boorish bully has to look forward to the court system at some point, should they follow his rules for real estate business dealings. ‘Nuff said.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 1, 2009 @ 1:12 pm

  92. Ironic that there are Armando supporters that frequent a web site dedicated to Real Estate & Mortgage Fraud.

    Hmmmm…..perhaps their respective sub-conscious brains have picked up on the very point that most of the writers here are trying to make. Interesting.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 1, 2009 @ 1:35 pm

  93. And Mega Flipper?:
    Doesn’t have to worry about permits & inspections? People that purchase these properties will have a problem. Insurance becomes null and void if not properly inspected and severe problems are uncovered. I would think that there would be a problem for the flipper of property – nondisclosure. They would have had to be aware of severe problems, but chose to use smoke & mirrors by painting over/covering up leak/termites/aging pipes/electrical disaster/fill in the blank. That would be where fraud charges would come in. Take a shack that should be condemned & dress it up with granite counter tops and travertene floors and sell it as a “Gem”. Yes, I have seen his crew at work. A disgruntled crew (different on each show, as people tend not to work for you again should you stiff them on payment, go figure) will passive/aggressively complete jobs just to get the bully off their back. Who ends up with the problem? The common people, as it was pointed out. The common people left with a an unmortgageable dangerous/unhealthy UNSELLABLE piece of junk. The poor saps that end up with the property will only have it long enough to try to remortgage. Banking institutions are extremely conservative in this market. It is policy to send in a bonifide inspector. Won’t pass inspection, and perhaps CONDEMN said property. Who’s the hero now? Even at so-called market value these homes are over-priced both in money and the dreams they shatter in the people that are unlucky enough to have purchased them.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 1, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

  94. Mondo is such a kewl dood he rox! Rich, famous, hot wife, he rox man! You chumps can’t stand him because he got everything you all want!

    Comment by Mondo Rox! — May 6, 2009 @ 1:35 am

  95. To Mondo Rox (in head, I think)
    If your brain is similar to how you type and spell… you deserve what you get. I guess if you can’t rebut the comments, deflect the issue.

    Rich? Only the picture looks that way. Rent a car for day, rent an Armani suit, get picture taken in front of building/house you don’t own…and scam somebody too addle brained to connect the dots.
    Real picture is simply this – watch the shows that have been already aired. Nobody is incriminating the guy. He has done it to himself. Civil suits are public. Just dig in right places. Read comments of people in this forum. Save your money for proper accredited authors to buy books on subject of refurbishing/renovating. Talk to respected members of the various professions to get their advice (preferably located in your own community). Talk to your bank manager/financial expert. See if you are in position to take the risk. Then roll up your sleeves. It’s hard work.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 6, 2009 @ 6:04 pm

  96. It is so obvious if you watch the TV show the whole thing is nonsense. But there are always idiots, who despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, will believe what they want to believe (Mondo Rox, Lenny, Mega Flipper, etc.). That’s what the scammers depend on: a steady supply of suckers.

    Comment by Robert — May 7, 2009 @ 3:48 am

  97. To Robert:
    Right On!

    Comment by Anonymous — May 7, 2009 @ 2:34 pm

  98. Mondo Rox, Lenny, Mega Flipper = Sock Puppet

    Comment by Anonymous — May 7, 2009 @ 2:36 pm

  99. If the only criteria for “awe” is apearing to be “rich” and having a “hot mamma” – I guess we should all aspire to be a pimp.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 7, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

  100. We aren’t jealous. We are laughing, LAUGHING at you.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 7, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

  101. If I were Vernonica, I’d be a little worried, as some point looks begin to fade and the the value of being a “trophy wife” loses its luster (therefore its value). Although losing 300 pounds of bombastic blubber, may be a weight loss program people would be willing to sign up for!

    Comment by concerned citizen — May 7, 2009 @ 6:46 pm

  102. The hate and racism are so deep in here. I thought when Obama was elected it would end but I can see that is not so. Just can’t stand Hispanic people getting ahead, right?

    Comment by Aztlan Now — May 7, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

  103. Now the racism card? Wow, talk about deflecting the issue. Again, go back to the already aired shows. The facts of the matter speak for themselves. What about the real victims in all this? The people stuck with properties he’s flipped? How about some compassion for the true victims of Armando’s self serving so called “drive for success”. Translation of that is how to part people from their money while crushing their hopes of home ownership at the same time. I’ll admit this, I am definately AGAINST criminals wreaking havoc on the lives of people who naively buy into his schemes or purchase his homes. The criminals in this case need to be labled as such, and stopped by the laws that were put in place to protect the law abiding citizens of the country.
    Aside to Aztlan: why aren’t you speaking to the Hispanic victims in this issue? The hispanic workers he treats with such disrespect? And the final insult – he has taken advantage of his own heritage by hiring these workers and not compensating them for their hard work. The way he bullies these workers is offensive to anybody, regardless of the viewers racial background. There is no need to take my word for it. It’s all there, on any episode of the show.

    Comment by concerned citizen — May 8, 2009 @ 6:51 am

  104. i just bought the course for 48.50 and will pay the rest a month later, i have to see what it’s about by me knowing construction will be in good hands and i have to see on own becus i hve hopes for this, if anyone thinks he is a rip off maybe you can go to and check his website i recommend that website if anyone wants to try other real easte investing courses., by the way anyone know how long it takes and how much it costs and stuff to get a real estate license? email me at, but i hve to see on my own if he is a rip off, i read one of his books already and it is not a lie cuus i know this pretty well and know that you can make money on anything if u put it to work, but like they say if u do harm you will do it and if u are good u will be good to ppl and nt rip them off, the course and skills do work it depends how much u put work in it, if u really wanrt to help ppl out u can do it, depends on ur behaviours which will lead you in the roads u take like they say karma is a bitch and i believe it for thoe that do harm.
    best luck, hugo

    Comment by hugo c. tamayo — May 8, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

  105. Does anyone have any experience with Mark Ijlal’s seminar’s. I was thinking of attending one.

    Comment by bobo — May 10, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

  106. 100% of these Real Estate gurus are bullshit artists. Don’t waste your time or money.

    Comment by Don't Waste Your Time — May 11, 2009 @ 4:36 am

  107. Wow, just wow. Good thing I checked this site out first. I’m going to see this shitstain (if he shows) next week here in Long Beach, CA. I’ll listen, not get hypotized by his hype and collect my free MP3 player for attending. Go me!

    Comment by ChrisJ. — May 13, 2009 @ 12:04 am

  108. Chris just be sure to not give them your real contact info when you attend. Because they’ll hound and spam you endlessly if you do. Bring a fake ID.

    Comment by Don't Waste Your Time — May 13, 2009 @ 1:29 am

  109. The people he’s scammed in the southern States don’t have any money left to fly to the Long Beach, California get together Chris was talking about. Too bad. Kind of hard to sell the “get rich quick” scheme with the ghosts of your past not only looking on, but heckling you (albeit RICHLY DESERVED!). If I have ever wished for poetic justice, this would be the time. I don’t wish him ill, I just wish he’d get what he deserves.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 13, 2009 @ 5:32 pm

  110. I want to sign up for Armondo’s mentering service. i figure any guy who can get a hit TV show, drive a big Mercedes, and be the envy of everyone must be doing something right! Now some of you say he’s not for real How can they put him on TV if he’s not real, people! DUH!!! Think about it!!

    Comment by New Real Estate Flipper — May 13, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

  111. Comment to New Real Estate Flipper:
    If he has a show he’s legit?
    That type of thinking also follows, if it’s in print, IT MUST BE THE TRUTH.
    If you are reading into the logical arguments of this web page that people are jealous, you are beyond help. Or logic.
    Obviously you cannot read. Or you are yet ANOTHER sock puppet of “Mondo”.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 14, 2009 @ 5:45 pm

  112. I do believe in Mondo’s system, I do I do I do!!!

    Comment by The Cowardly Lion — May 24, 2009 @ 12:36 am

  113. I can’t believe the amount of feedback on Armando Montelongo. I was considering starting to flip property a few months back but I’ve got to tell you…this thread has been extremely insightful.

    I watch “Flip This House” every Saturday and have followed all the different teams (CT, CA, TX & GA). It’s discouraging to hear all the negatives but I know it needs to be said.

    I just want to say good luck to those who’ve been burned and I hope justice does prevail. Karma’s a b***h!

    Comment by Newenglandviewer — June 9, 2009 @ 12:43 pm

  114. Armando ,
    Sorry for you loss dude but life will hurt you, like you hurt others.
    I’ve done my best to contact you and have been very unsuccessful regarding the money that is being stolen from my account. When I first saw your show I couldn’t wait for you to write your first book with Robert Allen and when you did, I bought it.
    Then your program Flip and Grow Rich, which from what I read on Google is nothing but garbage and remedial to say the least. I’m sure it cant compare to Carrolton Sheets “No Money Down” and I know you certainly don’t offer the wealth of wisdom and knowledge that I got from “Think and Grow Rich”….oh, and it was real Nice of you to steal your title from Napoleon Hill like that.
    Anyways, your program cost about $500.00 total when I ordered it but I never received the materials; that was Jan 1st Armando and now were in July, also at that time when I first placed the ordered, I specifically told your sale rep that I did not want your website access for $29.95.
    Yet your company slammed me with it and to this day I have never even seen what it looks like or how I would access it.
    So, to you SIR, my question is…Why would you do business this way? When I and so many were ready to believed in you .
    As for you customer service department, they represent you poorly. As a business owner they could learn from me about how to treat customers. And as for the woman Lind whom call her self the manager and your right hand she is a liar who promised that she would look into it but has no done a thing to help, instead what she has done is send my credit card company tracking slips that show they were delivered to some other state. And now I have to waist more time fighting/disputing that.
    And for the charges for your website or what ever it is that you charge 29.95 she sent a plank copy of your phone script to the credit card co. as proof…what’s that about. Why Armando are You and Veronica allowing this? WHY?
    I know that I will not be this situation for long but it saddens me to think that for greed you might end up in jail or ruined because you allow people who really don’t care about you, to treat you fans, admirers and potential student to be treated so unprofessionally.

    Any time I call, I deal with very rude people and that woman Linda acts like she owns you and the Montelongo Company.

    OK. Here are my promises to you: I will file my complaints with the Texas Attorney Generals of and the Utah State Attorneys’ Generals office, The BBB, and the Federal Trade Commission.
    Also I have created a Website dedicated to informing people of your corruption and my personal experience. I invite anyone who has had similar experiences or has been ripped off by the Montelongos to sign a petition asking the proper authorities’ to investigate these fraudulent actions and hopefully file a federal class action suit. Incorporated or not there are ways to go behind the veil and collect it from your personal asset.
    Raymond De Leon

    Comment by Raymond De Leon — June 28, 2009 @ 2:19 pm

  115. There are some other real estate mentors that were just exposed. If you have a complaint you should issue it to the FTC. They are cracking down on those who sell hope and leave people deeper in debt.

    Comment by run — July 1, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

  116. My business partner and I fell into Armando’s flip and grow rich program. We both read his book and were interested getting into the flipping business. We tried it on our own, but it was very difficult for us. So we decided to enroll in his program. Everything they promised us was a scam. We were promised the following: a one to one coach, they would locate foreclosed properties for us, we would make what we paid for within a week, hard money lenders, spend 3 days with Armando, and last if we were not satisfied with the program we would get our money back plus double what we paid. My business partner and I were excited because we were finally going to have someone guide us through it. We paid $7,500.00 for the program. We did receive the materials which was great along with the classes. When we tried calling them for the proprieties listing, they just gave us the run around. One guy said that we have to do it on our own. Then we tried asking them for hard money lenders which we never received as well. We never received a one to one coach, we had to call the coach line and we had a different coach each time we called and to top it off they were very rude and were bothered when we would call. Also, it would take hours before they would call back when we needed an answer right there and then. We were both very disappointed with his program, so we decided to get our refund back. We tried this program for several months and paying our debt that we were promised that we would pay it off within one week with our first deal. So when we called we spoke to the manager and when I told her that “Jerry” the director who enrolled us to the program said that if we were not successful that we can have a refund plus double. She laughed and said there is no refund and Jerry would have never said that. She then said to email her everything we were promised and someone will call us back. So I e-mailed her and never received a response nor did I receive a call back. I just can’t believe how they can do this to anybody. My business partner and I are trying to recover for our lost. It has been difficult to do anything since we used our money that we had saved to pay for this program. For anyone who is thinking about enrolling into his program, I would think twice before doing it. Our biggest regret is that we should of look into it before enrolling, but like I said we were excited, we thought this was going to be the key to success. But, we were wrong we are just now in more debt. I guess it’s true what they say, they prey for the innocence If anyone knows how we can get our refund back please let us know.

    Comment by EPCC — July 5, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

  117. EPCC…. That is interesting what you said. I, too, have been on the phone with an individual that says he is the Director. He has told me in order to sign up for the entire program and have the one-on-one coaching, it would cost $3250. Why would it cost me half as much when you purchased the program not too long ago…?? Like it said, interesting…

    Comment by Interesting... — July 9, 2009 @ 7:33 am

  118. Interesting….. Hello I think it determines how much money you say you have. We told them that we had our business credit card that we were going to use to repair the houses. We told them the amount and the next day he called back and said it would be 7,500 for us to get the best education and guidance. Don’t do it, the material is good, but what they say what they are going to do for us is all bull crap.

    Comment by EPCC — July 12, 2009 @ 11:21 pm

  119. I got suckered in to his workshop in Phoenix. Paid $3000. Same story as everyone else. I am now filing complaints everywhere I can.


    Comment by Darlene — July 15, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

  120. Just attended a “free” Montelongo seminar presented by an aggressive, fast talking bullish and at time offensive guy who introduced himself as Matt Mattson. He started his 2+ hours of non-stop blurb by promising to show the audience “pointers” and “how-to”s in the area of foreclosure, as HE was the foremost authority on the subject at least in this country. Instead, pretty much everything coming out of his mouth (other than spits) was a sales pitch and arm-twisting effort to go to the back of the room and sign up for a 3-day course for a discount price of ONLY(???) $3000, all along talking about the fact that “you don’t have to have any money to buy real estate”. Well, I didn’t have any money to buy the course either, so I left!!

    Comment by Bob — July 19, 2009 @ 9:11 pm

  121. A few days ago I attended a “free” Montelongo “Success Round Table” seminar, presented by an aggressive fast talking, and at times offensive, bully who introduced himself as Matt Mattson, the foremost authority on Foreclosures!
    In his 2+ hours of blurb, he promised to show the audience some [introductory] tips and tricks on how to find, bid, get financing, buy, and sell foreclosures. However, all that turned out to be a highly charged sales pitch, pushing everyone to go [NOW!!!!] to the back of the room and sign up for the UNBELIEVABLE(??) price of ONLY $3000, so that you can learn how to buy real estate with NO MONEY!
    Well, I had no money to spend on that course either, so I just left!!!!!!

    Comment by Bob — July 19, 2009 @ 9:22 pm

  122. Dorothy…… this might sound very wierd… but i may be living in your house and we have recieved mail with his name stating that he owes taxes on this house. I f you dont mind could you please just give me the street name of the house u sold.

    Maria Soto…. i am not sure if you lived in the same house i may have. But i was wondering if you could may be give me the street address too. I am having troubles too.

    Comment by The Renters — August 4, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

  123. I find myself bewildered in the fact that A&E still keeps this guy on the air. It is my understanding that he and his wife are STILL the hosts of Flip This House? I visited his “website” and I am outright amazed that A&E allows him to use their FTH logo on his landing page, considering that his website is nothing more than a promo for buying his product.

    I remember seeing this guy for the first time a couple of years ago. My first thought was it was pretty cool that a Hispanic could pull himself up by his boot straps and make some wealth. I felt a kinship with him, having been on my last buck after a bankruptcy (though I am not Hispanic), though I made my money with a website empire. I, like I thought he was doing, also teach others.

    It didn’t take long to be disillusioned watching him and learning about him. His “last tank of gas” he talks about and how poor he was is total BS. He came from a family with a successful construction business. He was not broke.

    The way he treated his sub-contractors, squeezing them out of any profit they might make and adding more work than they agreed to with the false promise of making it up to them on the next job was just obscene. He even used his wife, dressed in a bee keeper outfit to remove bees from a home in order to save $300! What an A-hole!

    His temper tantrums and his attitude toward others… his shoddy workmanship and putting lipstick on serious issues with homes he sold (leading up to his brother having enough and walking off the show)… his own stupidity of everything except on how to market his BS only proves that there truly is a sucker born every minute who would buy anything he is selling.

    My predictions:
    A&E will drop him and his wife as the hosts of FTH.
    Eventually Armondo will be indicted by a State agency that wants to use him and his wife as a means of getting the word out to all scammers that their days are numbered. His just prosecution would make news.
    The next time he tells people he arrived in town on his last tank of gas… it will be true.

    Comment by Matt — August 16, 2009 @ 8:29 am

  124. I just sat through most of the current sales pitch tonight in Topeka, KS. From what I understand he was in Wichita, KS last night and will be in Kansas City some place tomorrow. The same fast talker Matt Mattson was our speaker who was a “Multi-Multi-Multi Millionaire” who was just doing Armondo a favor, because Armondo was too busy to show up tonight. He had a power point with numerous mispellings in it and what looked to be fake photos. I’m not a perfect speller, but don’t you think a millionaire or billionaire would know how to spell millionaire or billionaire? Both were mispelled on two slides and on another, one was right and one was wrong. Anyway, there were several people who signed up for the $3,000 (discounted from $10,000) classes and mentoring mentioned previously. It wasn’t until after I left the seminar and started searching our presenter and Armondo did I realize the extent of the scam I witnessed. I thought I was just going to see a TV personality talk about how he did what he did. I assumed I would get a sales pitch, but didn’t realize it woud be this bad. I feel very bad for the people this seminar took advantage of and hope these scammers are stopped as soon as possible.

    Comment by Jason — August 19, 2009 @ 1:27 am

  125. Unfortunately I have come across this site and others like it before he got the first $100 out of me for his useless FREE book and DVD. Now I have had to cancel a credit card, file fraud charges and will probably have to put up with collectors for the next 50 years because he says I owe even more money for the worthless FREE book and DVD. Ugh!

    Comment by Pili — August 28, 2009 @ 5:24 pm

  126. I just went through Armandos $3000 workshop in KC this weekend. I am an experienced investor who has flipped over 30 houses in the last 5 years and built a great portfolio. I thought they had some really good information at the seminar. I paid $1500 because you got the buy one and take one for free deal so my partner paid $1500 too. I think I received $1500 worth of information and so did my partner. Now Armando has tons of bad press on here which I believe some people are just haters, but my question is has anyone signed up for his California trip they try to upsell you on? It is like $24,000 and Armando is suppose to be helping you find & buy property on a bus ride with him and other students, get a 1 year mentor and some other stuff. The investors/ teachers are saying he is making $40k plus on each of the flips with no money out of pocket and there are buyers lined up ready to buy the houses when they’re done. Anyone know anything about this?

    Comment by Brock — August 31, 2009 @ 3:17 pm

  127. …Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people…

    Comment by Oprecio — September 8, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

  128. This guy is a con man and anyone who believes a word he says is even more naive…..he is a bs man and he cheats on his wife…I have proof!!!

    Comment by Jose — September 14, 2009 @ 8:16 am

  129. Well, I signed up for the free 30 day trial for Armando Montelongo’s program. I usually get the free 30 programs, study them and then send them back before the 30 days are up because they are crap and never tell you much, just get you ready to pay for expensive mentoring. Unfortunately this time I was busy, out of town and you guessed it… I went 3 days past the 30 days ARRRGGG!!! $450 in 10 payments of $45 is the best deal I could negociate. (My wife thinks I’m an idiot!)

    Well, ok I ‘m stuck so let’s give it a shot… I did the google search and sure enough, there are hard money lenders out there. I told them my credit sucks because I have a business and got stiffed by a bunch of clients so now I’m deep in debt (true), They said not a big problem…. Well, OK, good so far…and I will admit, this is the one thing I learned that I didn’t know before, There are other sourses of money besides banks……

    I went to a Real Estate office close to me (San Fernando Valley California) and asked about “fixurupers”. Well looks like I missed the boat….They already have people buying “fixurupers” and in fact they have a shortage of houses, most of their buyers/rehabers pay in cash… If I want to buy a house I will need proof of funds in a bank account….Now what do I do? I have a little money and no credit left, and I’m DEFINATELY not paying a mentor….. so if I pull this off I will give the credit to Armando’s program, If I fail it is because it is not possible in this economy, I will be the victum of another scam and I lost $450……..

    Well I’m going to try and find a deal. I will look in all the places Armando said to look, the 4 D”s and I will let you know how it goes…

    Comment by Terry — September 22, 2009 @ 11:59 pm

  130. I need to say that before I went to A. Montelongo’s seminar this week, he was my highest mentor. I thought he was very smart and sharp. However, all that seemed to go away quickly.

    I went to Armando’s seminar this week and was very disappointed to find that he is asking people to attend what quickly became an “infomercial” seminar. He tells you that you will get a package of cd’s and books and when you get there they’ve conveniently ran out of them. Oh, BUT WAIT!!! You can sign up for his “mentoring” class for just $3,000. Armando and his team are targeting the wrong people. He says: “You can make deals with no money, and no credit or bad credit” he says in his mailed pamphlets. Think about it, everyone that attends these seminars are broke and need “financial freedom”. If they have bad credit, they will not have a credit card or will have a checking account with $3,000 – even less chances that they will they carry $3,000 in their pockets. I’ve now read that after the $3K that you’ve already forked out to him, you will need an additional $16K – $20K to stay “informed” with their “exclusive” stratagies… and their “mentoring”. Armando talked to us for about 20 minutes, got us all pumped up, then Matt came in with the infomercial. Armando said that he hired Matt to go and talk to the people at the seminar, but it seems that it was the other way around. Think about it, Matt is not as well known as Armando and only because of his Flip This House TV show.

    I am highly disappointed because now that I’ve read many reviews – I now believe most of them are true stories… Needless to say that I left the seminar without enrolling but saw many people signing up. I think the first couple of people that got up actually work in the A. Montelongo/Matt Mattson’s team. They make it seem like “limited seats” are available, so you better hurry up. Right when he is convincing you of whether you should get up or not, those people in the team get up and make you think that you’re missing the opportunity of a lifetime.

    So, spread the word: Don’t lose your precious time, this opportunity is not the one you’ve been waiting for.

    Comment by Boycott Armando — September 25, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

  131. I bought his book and dvd. It was interesting but nothing new I haven’t seen or heard before. Like everybody else in this room I got a mothly bill BUT I was wise I reported my credit card stolen which cut him from taking money. My advice to all you is never buy real estate infommerical stuff junk from tv. All the info you need is online please. As for the real estate shows just learn from them and don’t buy there product. And if you do buy there product either you use a PRE PAID CREDIT CARD or REPORT YOUR CREDIT CARD LOST OR STOLEN. Trust me you will get off the hook. Last buy real estate and flip properties. Learn from your mistakes and make back the money you lost. Either you buy and sell or buy and lease.

    Comment by Mike — September 30, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

  132. I feel that a Bait and Switch was done to me through Armando Montelongo “Flip and Grow Rich” real estate course. I signed up for his book because I had seen him on t.v. flipping houses and then he came out with some books to purchase, which I did.

    I was content to study the books on how to find properties but I was not able to join the coaching section because the cost was going to be $3,000. so I just kept trying to follow the instructions in the book and find my own Hard money lenders.

    Then I get a call from a Mr. Steve Martin a few weeks after purchasing the books and turning down the offer to join the coaching program, that they would let me into the program for anywhere between $500-1000. and that I could be one of the success stories that they would write about on the show or books that they make and if I were to find any houses that the seven investors would not only back me but purchase them for me. After I started attending the classes I found this not to be true.

    I contacted the governor of Texas who turned my case over to the attorney general who is investigating Armando as we speak but I didn’t stop there I have plans to take him to the media if he doesn’t pay me back the money I shoved out to join his outfit and a nice audit of his business every six months is in order too.

    Comment by Alberta Batchelor — October 14, 2009 @ 10:04 pm

  133. I think people are jealous of Armando–come on give him some credit. Doesn’t everyone have things in their past they learned from. House flipping comes with knowledge you only receive from trail and error. Give the guy a break, he is on TV, he gets money from that. Has websites with ad revenue and books as well. I seriously doubt he is broke, and who cares about past tax issues. The only thing that tells me is he had a hard time with cash flow at first, which I am sure he rectified with all the TV money he gets. As a matter of fact, he probably does not even flip anymore.

    Comment by Justin Henry — October 23, 2009 @ 4:16 pm

  134. Hi,
    These people are worse than bank robbers or thugs on a dark street. Within the first 30 days, I cancelled. They told me later that I cancelled with a person in the wrong department!!!! How would I know—the person that I cancelled with, said nothing about being the wrong person. My phone calls get me nowhere. I am in Texas. If you know of any government official pursuing these con artists, please leave a message below mine. I hope that we can get EVERYBODY’S credit card charges reversed and then put this band of gypsies behind bars in a jail that Armando has not ‘renovated’ and flipped.

    Comment by Lorne — October 28, 2009 @ 3:48 am

  135. I hope you all get your money back from this crook. After I sent the program back, (they refused to accept it at first) THEY threatened to come after me if it didn’t go through my credit card. My card company says not to worry, they will back me. We will see next month.

    Comment by julia — October 29, 2009 @ 5:16 pm

  136. I signed up or the portland workshop 3 days ago. I am in a place right now that if this failes I am homless. sink or swim time! I gave him ALL of my money for this class and now can not even pay for a cup of coffee. I got on here looking or a good story and the only one was the guy who is already an investor. I anyone has had a good experiance with this please post it. (on the other hand i they were happy and lipping would they really be on a website like this!?LOL)

    Comment by ashley — November 6, 2009 @ 2:14 am

  137. Ashley, I hope like heck it all works out for you. Next time, do a web search BEFORE handing over your money. I know it would have saved me a lot of grief, years ago. :(

    Comment by Dawn — November 6, 2009 @ 8:18 am

  138. Stay away from Armando. File a criminal complaint against Armando for fraud. Put Armando out of business and into jail.

    Comment by David — November 6, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

  139. From my personal experience, this is another SCAM. Their course is titled FLIP and Grow Rich. I bought into it, having had prior experience in real estate. I felt I needed mentoring in this particular market. When I purchased a property using their guidelines and found I could not flip it, they suggested that I hold it. I informed them that I needed the cash flow from a flip and that was why I bought the course. The coaches constantly contradicted one another and one even gave me a response that had no relevancy to my questions. When I contacted the Utah Attorney General’s office, Armando’s customer service manager actually said that I had stopped calling them for coaching, when in actuality, they stopped returning my calls. They had no problem calling me in the beginning when they were trying so hard to get me to purchase the course. I think it’s time to initiate a Class Action lawsuit against Armando AND his customer service team of fabricators for fraud, misrepresentation, breach of contract, and deceptive advertising. Im getting a lawyer lined up. I’ve had it with these vultures.

    Comment by Annoula — November 18, 2009 @ 1:39 pm

  140. I also attended the Portland Oregon siminar…I also would like to hear from people that know for sure…if he is ok or not..
    I met him in person and all the speakers and him were very nice and very knowledgeable…
    the people he broght in for the training all have web sites and storys to find out if they were telling the trough…but for the most part it sure looks like a great thing to me…

    Comment by Nancy — November 21, 2009 @ 4:40 am

  141. I would like to know more information on the coach from Utah that you were working with …and what program you were into..thanks

    Comment by Nancy — November 21, 2009 @ 4:43 am

  142. Aloha, I just bought Armando’s PRODUCT at a seminar he held in HAWAII. From the stories and the speakers stories at the seminar, everything sounds legit. He also gave us a GUARANTEE that if we dont flip a house within a time period we will get a full refund, which is a pretty LARGE amount. The purchase included his books and dvd’s and a 3-day workshop, which I have yet to attend. It really sucks to hear all this negative feed back, but I couldn’t help but believe in their guarantee. I also purchased a TAX LIEN product, and was wondering if anyone else had feed back on that. It was from one of Armando’s speakers at the seminar we attended, a Steve Johnson. PLEASE HELP BY BEING HONEST, and BRING YOUR HONEST FEED BACK, I would greatly appreciate it. Mahalo!

    Comment by Hula Girl — November 24, 2009 @ 8:57 pm

  143. Hi Hula Girl…
    Nice to hear from you ..We are also in the same place..We had Matt Mattson as the speaker..and really enjoyed the three day seminar..our speakers were..Mark , Chris Sander, Denise Devoe mostly an it was all great information…let me know how it goes…thanks..

    Comment by Nancy — November 30, 2009 @ 1:24 am

  144. Hula Girl,

    You will be waiting a LONG time to get any refund. In fact, they are disputing making any claims. Therefore, I suggest that you get it in WRITING. I have reported them to the FTC and the Attorney General’s office. My next step is to file legal action. See my November 18 comment. Perhaps you will have better luck utilizing their course material. I wish you the best.

    Comment by Annoula — November 30, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

  145. has anyone keeped in tough with other people in the class ..and how are they doing…

    Comment by Nancy — December 2, 2009 @ 2:37 am

  146. From the comments on this site, I think it’s pretty obvious how others are doing (or not). For anyone who claims success, I’d love to see their proof if they are willing to share the specifics.
    Otherwise, anyone interested in pursuiing a lawsuit where we can have Armando served on stage — and his “customer service” cronies in Utah — please let me know. In fact, there is going to be a media outpour soon on this scam from what I understand.

    Comment by Annoula — December 2, 2009 @ 1:11 pm

  147. I have had to legally take action in 2000 against the montelongo’s. Patrick, if you are still looking for info against these me.

    Comment by Juan — December 2, 2009 @ 1:14 pm

  148. My wife had a very similiar bad experience with this crook. She thought she was only buying his book for 9.95. They she gets this package in the mail stating if we wanted it was about $600.00. She immediately sent it back, got a confirmation number, etc. Did everything they told her to do. We even sent it back certified in which we got the certified green card back and they are still calling today 12/04/09 stating we owe them $$$

    Talk about ripping of the consumer. I wish there was a class action suit against this type of thing.

    Comment by Danny — December 4, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

  149. Stay away from Armando!!!!! About a year ago I bought his package, was contacted by a really good salesman, who talked me into buying their online training. To make a very long story short, they suckered me out of over $10K, that`s 10 thousand. I can`t believe I`m so damn stupid. I can`t say for sure if their program works or not since I didn`t understand enough of it to implement it. Also if you have to work full time it`s unlikely you will have the time. The one thing I can say for sure is that Armando has put me in debt for many years to come and lowered my credit score because of that debt.

    Comment by Mitchell Anderson — December 6, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

  150. Well – Well…. so here it all is….

    I have just returned from an AM three day workshop and the first day was “stop with tell me about other peoples successes….” Give me the dirt on what works!!!

    So often getting around the important stuff and myself… watching the time slip by and counting the $3k I spent to get the good stuff!!!

    Then it hit — Pay More to get More…. And I had enough!!!

    What I have learned about this site — and I read the ENTIRE comments — so it has now been an hour into this and I’m ready to tell you what is the biggest points?

    1) If there is good stuff to tell — and big money made… they too would spend the time to respond with as much detail on their successes — but NOTHING…

    2) I have been on many sites… and talks about Armando not actually arriving at the seminar as the contract states or MATT states that he would be doing =– well…. same happened for me… “HIS BACK WAS OUT!!!” and he skyped in… that was ridiculous since our seminar was in Orange county, CA and he lives only cities away!!! it was so master planned —

    What I learned is how to scam, how to manipulate, how to talk well and get the deal —

    PS — sorry for my spelling — but according to AM…. you don’t even need to read or write to do this quick rich idea… JUST HAND OVER THE $24K and you too will be a millionaire!!!

    Please respond with any questions and I will check this site often to respond to my experience!!!

    Take Care,
    $3k and out!!!

    Comment by OC Seminar Attended — December 14, 2009 @ 12:21 am

  151. What is it with all the people who bought something from this scam artist? Couldn’t you tell from just watching the show that he was a con man? And to not research a product before buying? Please. He is in business because there is a sucker born every minute and you are proving this correct! Come on people, do some research before buying anything. I don’t want to come off as being mean but you are part of the problem and the only reason he is still in business. I have no idea why it is called common sense…since the majority of the people don’t have it…should be called uncommon sense. I hope you get your money back and that you learned a valuable lesson. Peace out.

    Comment by Stupid is as Stupid does — December 14, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

  152. I too took the bait and He hooked Me..26K…They made all these promises and then didn’t perform, try calling them on the phone and getting them to answer.. I was told they would coach me personally and be making 6 figure income thru this system in a few months, … must be they have caller I.D., Never got to attend the Seminar in Vegas or the Bus tour promised. How does this Scammer get away with this… better yet, Why was I so Gullible.
    Feeling really foolish……. We neede to stop this Guy and His Team

    Comment by Hagar the Horrible — December 15, 2009 @ 3:58 am

  153. Interesting read here. A lot of people have really strong opinions about this guy. I don’t feel one way or the other, I just want to make a comment about his products. It is a pyramid scheme the people who are calling you are marketing affiliates this scam is so old I’m suprised people see genuinely unaware of it. For those of you who have been taken quit saying someone do something and call the district attorney in your state and file a formal complaint for fraud. It will probably take many of you doing so but, with multiple complaints they will have to respond.

    Comment by jobbob — December 20, 2009 @ 7:35 pm

  154. There should be laws that require anyone selling an opportunity to
    make money through real estate, internet marketing or MLM
    show proof of their earnings by providing documentation to the FTC.
    They should also be required to prove that their system when
    used by someone else has a high probability of success.
    Testimonials should probably be banned and replaced with
    statistics showing the success or failure rate of all people
    who try the system. High earnings claims should be banned
    and replaced with statistics showing high, low, and typical
    earnings. This seems like common sense to me.
    I don’t understand why the Govt doesn’t implement
    these laws.
    Anyone not complying with these regulations should
    be in violation of federal law with penalities including prision
    time. The people promoting these scams are the people
    that the book “The Sociopath Next Door” is written about.
    Sociopaths have no conscience and will lie cheat and steal
    to get ahead.
    The are a drag on the economy and do billions of dollars damage.

    Comment by Phil — December 28, 2009 @ 5:16 pm

  155. The business should also be required to have a real product or service.

    Comment by Phil — December 28, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

  156. Amando is a very rich man who has grown rich on the folly of others, some of whom deeply wanted to get screwed. Any predator or con can sense self destructivness, gullability or other weaknesses to exploit. Federal and State prosecutors are immune to these emotions and have grown very rich and successful using their reason and lack of weakness or sentiment. Folks lilke Amando could not fool most Fed/State prosecutors, who love to nail frauds and other predators. There is plenty of evidence against Amando; provide his victims are willing to step foward; and some attorneys are willing to work pro bono. I would also blame the way that life that is sold to immigrants crossing the border to the development of fraud that has greatly increased as a result of uncontrolled immigration. Immigrants are told that in American, they can have anything for a little hard work; that is anything. They are told they can marry any woman they want and get another one if they are unhappy; many harmful lies. Immigrants will have to learn humility, self restraint, and respect the slow, painful, and very hard way that American citizens have had to learn. Immigrants are proud, cocky, disrespectful, unrestrained, and often stupid people who have a lot of hard knocks ahead. Amando you are no exception to that rule. The millions you have earned cannot buy you respect and good regard. Respect, a good rep, and good regard are worth more than all your millions. You are a rich but empty man, Amando.

    Comment by Merl — January 3, 2010 @ 11:55 am

  157. apparently most of you guys are mis-informed armandos corporate office is not in san antonio its in utah. Do people lie absolutely most the people on here have no idea what there talking about i have been personally involved with his materials and program and its really good stuff. but for all of you that have no clue, keep tearing someone else down to make your self feel good

    Comment by scott — January 6, 2010 @ 4:47 pm

  158. I went to one of Armando’s pitches at the Omni Hotel in Corpus Christi, TX this evening. I was first surprised that they gave everyone a box dinner with a drink. The room was filled with hungry people at dinner time and people getting off of work too. Armando came in around 6:30 pm and got us all pumped up to become rich! After he shared his story about living in a garage and using food stamps to how he acquired a new wealth through real estate. Then he left and he handed it over Matt the a fast talking sales man. He was rude, did not care about the aduience, cursed a few times aloud and was sexiest! Long story short, you have to PAY A FEE OF 1,500 or more to become trained in his way during the 3 day training seminar to invest and flip property. You do not take away ANY useful information that can help move you forward. He is getting richer off everyone else. I expected to learn something, anything but Nothing! Thanks for the sandwich and cookie it was good!

    Comment by Sharon — January 7, 2010 @ 1:03 am

  159. Just finished the Corpus Christi, Tx. seminar, and
    did not purchase the program, course materials with the 3 day workshop at $1500.00.
    But as I was leaving I tried getting a business card from one of the staff members but he replied that they do not handout business cards?

    Comment by JJ — January 7, 2010 @ 2:02 am

  160. Aloha All,
    I actually attended the 3 day workshop they held for us. I actually learned a whole bunch from the teachers. Yes they did tell a lot of stories on other peoples success, but it was all relevant to the material being taught. I actually have a real estate coach, and is now in the process of being a successful real estate investor. It does take a lot of work & know how but it is paying off. They are not going to just hand over a property for you. You have to learn how to do everything your self & they are there for your advantage. And yes, they are there when I call. Maybe not all of the 10 times I call a day, but they are there and they do answer and help when I need it. So im a very happy customer of Armando’s program. Im also going to attend his bus tour, and everything in my experience has been LEGIT so far. So for all of you who had bad experiences, my condolences. But for those who are iffy and are in the process of becoming a customer, I wish you luck! Hard work pays off!

    Comment by Hula Girl — January 7, 2010 @ 5:08 pm

  161. Wow. This is all I can say to this. I just attended the seminar last nite in Corpus Christi at the Omni as well. Nice boxed lunch and cookie, I agree. I feel so disgusted after reading this site. I am not one to fall for gimmicks like this. But after the Academy Award Winning “act” I was sincerely scrounging up the last of my savings in the hopes of catching up to AM in Austin, Texas in a couple of weeks thinking I had really missed the band wagon. I t makes sense that if you are on tv you must be a great actor. The interesting thing to me is that if I had gone to Austin it would be deja vu. Considering the similarities in stories and experiences I have read. The “ooops we ran out of tools/dvds” “I am way over the time allowed” “hurry to the back of the room”. I wonder if I would see those same people get up and rush to the back of the room in the next town as well. I mean literally the same exact ones…haha. I have decided to stick to my original goals and path. I have a rental locating company to market and launch. I am really close to obtaining my real estate brokers license. I have a few “legit” closings coming up in the next couple of months. I have been sleeping on a relatives couch for over a year now trying to get my life in order and things seem to be looking up finally. I am so glad that I found this site and came to my senses. I would end up on that couch for a lot longer had I not done my research. The thing is that I should have known their was something shady with his claim to always want to help others…Family first…blah..blah…blah. If that is so, why is his close relative fighting to make ends meet in a struggling real estate firm after being fired by AM? I know this relative personally. Shame on them. Thank all you.

    Comment by fooledincc — January 8, 2010 @ 4:24 am

  162. Hula Girl,
    I would like to know how much are you paying for your mentor

    Comment by Anna — January 11, 2010 @ 2:19 am

  163. Hula Girl,

    Congratulations, it seems like you are enjoying the fruits of your labor. Are you from Honolulu by any chance? I know Armando came here around November; unfortunately, I was not able to attend the seminar. I actually am interested to learn of about your experiences so far with regards to the program. Thanks!

    Comment by WannaBeRich — January 14, 2010 @ 5:21 am

  164. Just testing to see what formatto use.

    Comment by Sarah — January 21, 2010 @ 6:25 pm

  165. I went to one of the “free” seminars in Walnut Creek, California, Tuesday night. It’s not surprising, by the way, that they assign no value to our time; no appreciation for or acknowledgment of the gas we burned to travel anywhere from 5 to 150 miles to sit in the chair or the babysitters many people had to hire. These blowhards went on and on from 6 p.m. until 11 p.m. – practically non-stop! I only stayed for the whole thing so I could make an assessment of the evening based on the whole picture.

    The observance of Armando as a “cheerleader” was hilarious! Armando, “All millionaires do things NOW! All millionaires do things when?” Audience, “now”. Armando, “I can’t hear you! When?” “Now!” With his hand to his ear, “When?” “NOW!” That’s just one example of the hyped up chants he presented his audience throughout his very short presentation. After all, his time is valuable… Next, the “turbo thinker” sales technique that Matt Mattson uses is amazing! It’s meant to numb people’s brains; put them into overload so they respond automatically to the call to run to the back table and sign up for the $9,000 3-day that they are going to give you for $1,500. He goes on and on and on and on at 50 million miles an hour because he doesn’t really want you to understand anything he says. He looks at his watch over and over, shaking his head and saying, “I guess I’ll have to just skip this next section.” I guess he doesn’t think we’ll notice that he didn’t have to skip any slides in his sideshow, I mean “slide” show.Then there’s this technique… I think it’s called the “take away”, or something like it. “Be sure you are one of the first 8. Wait a minute. Don’t go yet! Yada, yada, yada. Ok, we’ll try to take 12, but we have two more nights of this and turnout for this event has blown us away. We reserved a ballroom for the 3-day that will only support about 20 people. We’ll have to try to upgrade to a bigger room. We’ll find a way. Yada, yada, yada. Good news, we’ve been able to get a little bit bigger room. We only have kits for the first 12 people, but we’ll find a way to get them to another 12. The guys at the back will call out the numbers of each registration as it happens so you can know that you are close to missing out on the opportunity of a lifetime. Then he repeats one of Armando’s chants: “Millionaires take action when?”

    Enough of that. The spelling issue is just another example of their attitude toward all of us. Especially since it’s been going on from the beginning. According to Richard Layton, the “go to guy” Armondo referred me to when I tried to talk to him about “something that could be important” as I called it, many people have pointed the errors out to them over the years. I say it’s sloppy and careless, and, in light of the fact that they have been totally aware of the errors for years and don’t waste their time or money correcting them, it seems like a, “F*** you. Who cares what you think? We’re only here to make money and there are enough suckers who don’t care how we spell.” By the way, these aren’t subtle little errors that are hard to find. They include a reference to “Las Veagas” on the slideshow you watch as you are waiting for Armando. Then, in giant letters at the top of the first slide in his presentation, Matt shows us, “MILLIONAIRS” and “BILLIONAIRS”. And, in e-mail messages prior to the event, there was a story where someone “road into town on their motorcycle”, and the word “millionaire” is spelled several different ways.I’ve already spent far too much of my time on this, but when I found this blog, I wanted to share some of my experience, observations, and opinions.

    As the last word goes… BEWARE!Make informed choices, not emotional choices!

    Comment by Murrmayde — January 21, 2010 @ 6:37 pm

  166. As I was continuing my search for more information about the Montelongo scam, I discovered something. I think I know why they don’t correct the spelling errors and why they are so blatant. When I go to a site where people are singing the praises of AM, the postings are full of spelling and grammar errors!

    It seems like the errors the scam team make are just another technique to reel people in. You know…”Come join me, I’m just like you.”

    What a kick!

    Comment by Murrmayde — January 21, 2010 @ 6:49 pm

  167. I received the mail invitation to attend AM’s free seminar. The free dinner offer enticed me to call early and be the first 250 to get the free lunch and free gifts- mp3 players, CD’s. Then I saw the infomercial on TV telling audience be the first 250 to register for the free gifts.

    I attended the seminar in Burlingame, Calif. Everything is pretty much like the seminar in Walnut Creek as described by Mermaide above for the Jan. 22, 2010 seminar, except the following:

    After Armando finished with his talk, Matt Mattson took over and while walking toward the front, he turned around and mubled something about the ” deal in Las Vegas is a go”

    Matt Mattson mentioned his 16 year old son Logan, which is working outside with the sign in. Then he later said he remembered sitting in the chair (while pointing to the right hand side of the room, the 3rd or 4th row of chairs) and his pregnant wife with Logan 24 years ago. Now that is a tip off that he does not even remember his lies..
    He said he lived in Fremont, CA. and I searched the internet and the telephone directories, there is no such named person in the entire City.
    I sat through about the first half of the seminar and not one single real estate technique was taught. But I thought the sandwich was quite good though.

    Comment by Mike T. — January 23, 2010 @ 3:12 am

  168. I watched the infomercial last night and thought, ‘it’s a free seminar, what do I have to loose?, I will call the number and if they even ask me for a credit card number, I will hang up’. I called the number and the lady asks for my name, last name and phone number, that was it. After hanging up the phone I was so excited. I called my friend and made arrangements for her to babysit my daughter, I jokingly said to her, “yeah when I get there they will give us a little bit of info and then say, “for more info just purchase my book, dvd, and cd!”. Once the excitement wore off, the other side of me kicked in, the skeptical side. I began to do some research about that “free seminar” and I am so glad that I did. Thank you all for your posts and for bringing awareness to consumers like myself. You all don’t know how truly grateful I am to all of you. You all saved me time, gas and money, and not to mention precious time with my daughter.

    Comment by Judy — January 26, 2010 @ 11:30 pm

  169. I heard his ad for a free book on the radio. I called the number and ordered the free book. What I received was a box full of materials. I had a friend of mine who has a lot of experience selling real estate look it over. She said “No, I would not do this” So, I returned the package. A month later, I found that they had charged 29.95 to my credit card and was labeled “Signed purchase”. I had never signed anything. There is no phone number of address given for Armando Montelongo. Even with a search service, I was unable to locate him, so I had to close my account. That’s a lousy way to do business and convinces me that he is not honest.

    Comment by G. G. Reusser — February 10, 2010 @ 1:11 am

  170. Like Judy,

    I like to thank Murrmayde and Mike T., I also have been viewing Armandos infomercial out here in los angeles and was interested to attend since it is “free”… I just wanted to get information online and did a yahoo search and found this site. Like many others, I too watch flip this house on A&E and never thought Armando was doing anything to ripped people off. When I saw his infomercial I did start to think that the seminar would try to sell something, I mean, Armando and his partners can not provide a free meal (no matter how cheap), rent all those venues he is having near los angeles and not make any money. I do not have any kids and the drive would not be bad,…. i may still attend just to see how close it is to what people are describing… I will not purchase anything… I think people should try to apply legal pressure but maybe try to apply some media pressure too. I am sure some local networks would want to expose this scheme especially due to the mortgage meltdowns and real estate fraud… i know it is buyer beware but pyramids schemes were halted to an extent by making it better known.

    Comment by alex — February 10, 2010 @ 1:18 am

  171. I attended his seminar in Torrance, CA. Everything sounded good, so we registered and first it was the flip and grow rich with a 3day workshop for $1500.00 and then it was $800.00 for another program(scam) so we as SUCKERS believed it and paid, then I find this web-site, so I called the AM Seminars and guess what the number is no longer in service! Already filed a charge back with my creditor. Also Armando never showed to the seminar.

    Comment by Betty — February 22, 2010 @ 5:39 pm

  172. I keep getting charged $29.95 a month for what??!! I stupidly gave these scammers my credit card to pay for shipping for Armando’s “free” book four months later – January 2010 the charges begin.

    I have sent them numerous emails but no response so far!! My bank is helping me but the charges keep coming third one jsut hit today!

    DO NOT INVEST ANY MONEY IN THIS COMPANY! The only thing they will flip is the money out of your wallet/purse.

    Comment by Jack — March 4, 2010 @ 1:32 am

  173. I’m glad to see someone is exposing this guy. These infomercial guys are all the same.

    Some of you need to learn this – ANYONE on TV who claims to be an expert is a FRAUD. This is a fact. You can find them on infomercials, on CNBC, on Today Show, everywhere. If real experts were on TV dishing out great advice, why isn’t everyone rich? Ever think about that?

    And anyone who tries to reach out to the average Joe is NO EXPERT. Real experts don’t try to make a business marketing to average Joes. These people prey on your naive nature and desperation. Stop looking for easy money. It does NOT EXIST. It takes hard work, years of experience and dedication.

    A great site that provides the best education on scammers and how the media misleads and lies is

    This guy has the best record through this economic collapse. He predicted the real estate collapse and has been right about everything. I don’t know if he focuses on real estate but I know he comes up with accurate estimates in real estate market.
    And he exposes many of the scammers like Trump etc.

    Comment by Greg — March 7, 2010 @ 8:21 am

  174. There is a common story, questionably attributed to John Dillinger who responded to a question of WHY he robbed banks, with “That’s where the money is.”

    WHY DOES ARMANDO appear on 3 AM infomercials promising to help people make millions with zero money and zero effort?


    I just got done watching his infomercial, not because I believed a single word of this mumbling fool but just for the entertainment value of watching a con artist in action.

    If you believe him:

    He’s made more money through real estate than he knows what to do with.

    His lovely wife made him promise that if he ever got wealthy he would help others get wealthy and share his money because money is no good unless you share it.

    He can do everything from his computer and telephone and never leave the house.

    My first thought is HOW CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS GUY?

    Followed by the realization that many people are handing over money, credit card #’s bank account information and being robbed blind.

    If it weren’t for GREEDY MORONS, these THIEVES would not exist.

    Since logic and common sense seem to be so lacking in so many,


    I have been in the trenches, ignoring the con artists , and saving myself thousands of dollars !! I can show you copies of me credit card statements that have NO repeat charges, NO CHARGES for $20,000 imaginary courses. I HAVE DONE IT AND SO CAN YOU if youfollow these simple rules:

    Rule #1 – ALL late-night info-mercials for getting rich quick are SCAMS.

    Rule #2 – The guy who is “interviewing” the “expert” is not a real news person, he works for the “expert”

    Rule #3 – When the “real” people are talking about how rich they got with no work but there is a microscopic paragraph that you couldn’t read with Hi-Def, on a 10 foot screen at maximum zoom with a magnifying glass, it means, YOU WILL NEVER DUPLICATE THE CLAIMED RESULTS

    Rule #4 – GO to the internet, search for the NAME of the “expert” and add the word “scam” afterwards. IF everything that comes up is people talking about it being a scam , it IS. and If the first few pages of matches all seem to be the same claims that the expert is real, IT’S A SCAM because he is paying to have his spin show up before the people being scammed.

    Rule #5 – KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INCOME AND NET PROFIT. For example. Do you want ONE MILLION $$ income on Ebay? Buy a yacht from someone for $999,999 and sell it on Ebay for $1,000,000. Guess what, you just “made” ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Your INCOME on that sale was ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Yes, you only pocketed $1 but your INCOME WAS 1 MILLION.

    Rule #6. – If you have to have a credit card and they won’t even take a debit card or money order, HERE’S YOUR SIGN and it reads SCAM.

    Rule #7. If they are ALL claiming that they are just so rich that they only want to help because they are such fine, upstanding, selfless individuals, THEY ARE LYING and want to rob you blind.

    Rule #8 – If you have been stupid enough to give them your credit card #, bank acct. info, SSN, mother’s maiden name and then they hound you to spend THOUSANDS or TENS OF THOUSANDS. HANG UP and GET A CLUE.

    Rule #9 if you ignored all the red flags, sirens, etc and are now out TENS of thousands of dollars, ask a loved one to go to court and have you declared INCOMPETENT to manage your own affairs. SERIOUSLY. Because chances are, after they scam you , another friendly expert will contact you , offering to get your money back from him if you put up a small retainer or good faith fee of several thousands of dollars. Since you feel SO STUPID for losing all your money, you will probably end up going deeper in debt to this other con artist (probably the SAME one!!) and totally F-up your life. Seriously. If you have gotten taken for a small fortune by Armando or any of the myriad of late night infomercial experts, you are no longer capable of managing your own affairs. Give a power of atty to someone close (NOT ARMANDO)


    Comment by Ralph — March 22, 2010 @ 5:36 am

  175. Forgot one of the BIGGIE rules that applies to ALL of the infomercial con artists, EBAY, Private NOTES, Probate, No Money Down, etc.

    You know that FREE 30 days membership to the Super Secret Member’s Only Ultra Fancy Vault of special information website, a $50 value? AFter the 30 days, you will be charged that amount in perpetuity, EVERY MONTH.

    Also, I have always had a good head for numbers, unlike many of his disgruntled “students” here.

    AS best as I can tell from just the people who admitted they were SCAMMED, he SNAGGED OVER $100,000 JUST from the ones who admitted it here.

    That means that he has scammed TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars.

    and if anyone can still follow this logic flow, the fact that he seems to be in so much financial trouble anyways even though he is getting millions of $$ for nothing, this guy is a total moron.

    Finally, one dead giveaway that should be immediately apparent to any HONEST person?

    The fact that he is USING (ABUSING ?) his exposure on FTH as a separate money-making scheme is UNETHICAL and a conflict of interest. No HONEST person would ever have been actively doing a show like that and running a separate get-rich-quick scheme.

    Yes, that may sound naive and expecting a level of honesty FAR BEYOND what Assmondo could understand but his actions are an immediate red-flag to anyone who IS ethical.

    Comment by Ralp — March 22, 2010 @ 6:29 am

  176. Dear Mr. & Mrs. Montelongo,

    I do have to start by “Congratulating you both” on the sucess of your empire. I have to be honest when I tell you that I’ve been a fan from the very begining! I couldn’t wait to get home from work, just to see one of your shows! I remember the shows when your wife picked out the most expensive flooring and you would go crazy for the fact that it was too expensive. Your wife would always stress quality! I did appreciate that! Just the same I remember when you would drive around and go see an interested site and go for it! I’m really happy for you and your family. Because in the very begining you mentioned how your family was even on food stamps! So here I was greatful so see your an informercial and you behind it last night! I tried calling the 800 number however it was not in service. I had my Real Estate license a couple of years ago! However I was diagnosed with a brain tumor back in 2006 and was unable to pursue my dream with the Real Estate Industry. However last year after 28 years with my husband I decided it was time for me! So I’m currently the Administrative Assistant here in New York in a Charter School. Just took the Court Officers exam in December 2009. And decided to take refresher classes for the Real Estate exam once again and reinstate myself! So I will read up on all you have to offer as a guide. God Bless you and your family always!

    Good Luck,

    A true fan…..

    Agnes Melendez

    Comment by Agnes Melendez — March 23, 2010 @ 3:54 pm

  177. i went to one of armandos siminars the talk was nice the food was good i got a free dvd and a mp3 player it was a catch it cost 1470 dollars for one of his workshops who has that kind of money

    Comment by andre — March 26, 2010 @ 2:29 pm

  178. I just finished a Seminar tonight. Man! What a disappointment! First I went to the Presentation which seemed to be promising, until the big numbers came up about the 3-day Seminar. Well, my wife wanted to do it real bad so we went for it. That night at the Presentation we were told how this 3-day would would bring promising monies, guarantees that if we didn’t sell a house we would be totally refunded our cash for the Seminar……WRONG! On the second day of the Seminar we were hit with the other big surprise. To accomplish what was promised we needed to complete another 3-day training at the price of about $2400! Boy! Now I’m pissed! I knew it was too good to be true. Oh and I explained our financial situation to them and they still wanted us to “think out of the box” to come up with the money. They didn’t care what it would cost us. For the one’s that had deep pockets….no problem! For the one’s like myself that have nothing and want to make a change in my life…I had no chance or hope of obtaining those funds. Now I wonder what the new surprise is awaiting those after completion of the “Bus Tour Training”? It’s really sad that he takes advantage of people like that! At that first Presentation the $2400 Bus Tour Training was NEVER mentioned!

    Comment by Troy — March 29, 2010 @ 12:07 am

  179. Do not go to his seminars and pay 2, 995..they feed you a bunch of hip-hip horray! fluff and very little training about flipping houses. the tapes are okay but not worth the money.

    Comment by Disgusted — April 3, 2010 @ 10:05 pm

  180. if anybody has gone to a 3 day seminar on oahu and says it was good, either has money to throw away or is getting paid to say that. Not worth the money, i paid close to 3, 000 end of 09. go to a library about consignment fees, foreclosures, etc. what a waste of hard earned money. he will get his karma.

    Comment by Disgusted — April 3, 2010 @ 10:18 pm

  181. Whats funny is that ALL of you are right AND all of you are wrong. I know Armando personally (I wont say how). I know what’s really going on behind the scenes of his show. The fact is if you were ripped off by him then that’s your fault. TREC established rules and regulations to govern Real Estate in Texas and I’m sure other states have the same provisions, which they in turn allow for local boards which employ these people called Real Estate agents. Most investors tell you to NOT work with a Realtor because we hold things up or can essentially “kill the deal”. Truth is, they don’t want you to work with Realtors because we will tell you the truth about a property. I’m not saying all Realtors are ethical or know what they are doing but I know with my background as a Hard Money Lender/Realtor and Investor, my clients usually end up on top.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 8, 2010 @ 12:45 am

  182. Anonymous we don’t know if your clients end up on top, we have nothing to base it on. I would need to talk to 10 or 20 of your clients to find out if they feel they ended up on top.
    People need to be educated on what is really happening.
    I preffer to get the facts before I decide what is truely going on behind the scenes.

    Comment by Bob McNeilly — April 8, 2010 @ 8:01 am

  183. Gifted and Talented Psychic Medium in Nyc. Jesse The Messenger is here to help. Call now an appointment. 917-733-3107
    If you have questions, I have answers.

    Comment by Jesse — April 8, 2010 @ 3:57 pm

  184. wow a Gifted and Talented Psychic Medium in Nyc???????????????
    is he a real estATE GURU????????????????
    r blatent ads allowed in these threads???????????
    anyway i am going to attend a FREE seminar by Ambrose and see him for myself. i have been around and been hammered a couple of times and have clic ked a couple of times. remember Einsteins theory of insanity = keep doing the same thing over and over and expect the same results. taking action is the name of the game! for affordable removable reusable vinyl etched decals with the look of frosted glass. Dress up that rehab!!!

    Comment by DENNIS — April 11, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

  185. Obama voters will fall for anythimg….Where’s my free Obama Stash…????

    Comment by Bert Nurney — April 12, 2010 @ 2:22 pm

  186. Anonymous,

    I have been a Texas Realtor for 10 years and am a former Director at a prominent mortgage review/real estate law firm, and I have to take issue with the points that you made.

    First, local real estate boards do not employ real estate agents; it is an optional membership organization that agents may join if they want access to the Multiple Listing Service (MLS).

    Second, having worked with many investors, I would argue that the primary reason they don’t want to work with real estate agents is that they don’t want to pay commissions. In addition, if we’re being completely honest, investors know that most agents are completely lost when it comes to creative financing, short sales, trusts, etc. and will, therefore, caution their clients against doing anything other than an agent-to-agent, plain-Jane purchase/sale … THAT is why they’re known to kill deals. In other words, most Realtors are only comfortable in their very limited, TREC promulgated element, and that is not how the investor world operates. Trust me, investors appreciate and even seek out agents who can understand non-traditional sales and financing, recognize the benefits and drawbacks for their clients, and help them understand and feel comfortable with the deal.

    Just my two cents.

    Comment by Just Me — April 15, 2010 @ 8:22 pm

  187. FYI Dennis – the CORRECTED theory of insanity is: …doing the same thing over and over again and expect DIFFERENT results! …duh.
    …you people have nothing better to do but slam people who are successful?
    …when people go to any RE guru’s seminars they have a CHOICE, to buy OR not.
    …and IF they buy, and continue going to more seminars they have a CHOICE, to get up off the couch and put into action what they learned OR to do nothing and then complain.
    …land of the free…

    Comment by KC — April 20, 2010 @ 12:44 pm

  188. I want to know about the homes he flips, or has flipped. How do they hold up after he’s “Finished”, because some of the people he employs and some of the work that’s done looks pretty shoddy. The finished product looks great, but what about the unseen things things, heating, wiring, plumbing etc. What about the quality of products used?

    Comment by Joe Smith — April 24, 2010 @ 11:59 am

  189. Are you guys all kidding me bad mouthing Armando? If all this “BULL” you are putting out there was really true A&E would not have them on their network. My God Tiger Woods just cheated on his wife and he lost over 10 sponsors in one day! Anyone can bring a lawsuit against anyone for a filing fee now winning is another story! And anyone in busy can and will be sued in the course of their career if they are movers and shakers. I have been sued several times and never been convicted of a thing because they were just pissed off people trying to get their day in court. So really guys if Armonda was doing fraud in any way shape of form in the real estate industry these days he would be shut down. The Goverment has big brother watching everything now since the mortgage crash in 2007. And most of the things you are talking about that they are doing are just good business practices by most companies in the world. So get a life!!!!!

    Comment by Mortgage man — April 25, 2010 @ 11:40 am

  190. Take the time to study your craft. Read a few books first before you decide to pay an outrageous number for a seminar. Even if Armondas seminar are legit or not..He forces no one to buy his product. Simply has information that inquiring minds are curious about. Learn for youself and then learn from some one else.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 26, 2010 @ 8:37 am

  191. I’m skeptical but willing to try!

    Comment by Scared in OKC — April 29, 2010 @ 11:24 pm

  192. This is one big scam.

    Comment by anonymous — May 4, 2010 @ 3:03 pm

  193. This guy is a hack!!!!

    Comment by DS — May 6, 2010 @ 2:24 pm


    Comment by nancylin — May 7, 2010 @ 12:33 pm


    Comment by nancylin — May 7, 2010 @ 12:34 pm

    to find a live event coming to your town
    so that YOU and begin your real estate journey to financial freedon!!!

    Comment by nancylin — May 7, 2010 @ 12:35 pm

  197. Jesus Loves You

    Comment by Due Diligence — May 11, 2010 @ 6:53 am

  198. Well I have read his book and I am confused about all the world is saying. There Are anti- flipping laws in my state so how is all this possible with out credit or money?? Single mom of 4 just finished real estate school. Doesn’t seem possible although I wish it were!

    Comment by confused — May 12, 2010 @ 7:50 pm

  199. You guys who don’t like him are probly all broke and thats why your all mad at him. Im 29 bought his package and in 3 weeks made 42k so whatever! He may have made some bad moves but even if he did, Are you just gonna go around worrying about him and hating him. c’mon!

    Comment by dave — May 15, 2010 @ 9:50 pm

  200. oh yeah and I really did do it without spending one penny! I have never met Armando and have no reason to lie about this.

    Comment by dave — May 15, 2010 @ 9:52 pm

  201. My husband attended the free seminar he saw mentioned on TV. During the free seminar they pushed the 3 day seminar for $1470. Since another friend was going to the 3 day seminar he decided to do it.

    He did learn quite a bit of information in the 3 day seminar so my husband felt it was worth going. They did give some useful information in the seminar, where to look for property, good websites to check out, where to find investors, etc. Our friend that has done a few flips learned some things in the 3 day seminar. Though personally I think it is a lot of stuff you can find on the web. At the end of the seminar you get a CD that has contract information, some books, etc.

    On the second day of the paid seminar they pushed for another 3 day boot camp seminar to be held in California which they would take you around Orange County and you would purchase a piece of property, access to Armando’s “people”, 1 year mentoring, (and some other things) this would cost $24k or $34k depending what kind of mentor program you wanted (not including airfare or hotel). They would hold a 3 day boot camp out there, and then come back to your home state and do another 3 day boot camp. During these boot camps you would be going with a group of people so you all would be competing for the same houses. The final day of the seminar they dropped the price down to $12k. They wanted my husband to just sign up and not tell me about it.

    During the paid seminar each person had to come up with 20 homes in their targeted area. You handed that in on the second day and they gave it back to you on the final day. You just gave them some potential pieces of property they will probably use during the 3 day boot camp when they come back to the area. Luckily my husband thought of that when he came up with his list, he didn’t want anyone knowing what area he was thinking.

    I don’t feel it was worth spending $12k buying in a state you don’t live in, have no control over your investment, but supposedly Armando’s people would handle all that. There is no guarantee that the property would even sell.

    They want you to get in debt before you even start. Makes you wonder what you are going to get for the $24k if they had no problem dropping it down 50% on the final day of the seminar. I feel bad for the ones that paid the full price.

    On the first day of the seminar they had everyone call their credit card companies to find out their available credit card balances. Since we had more than enough to pay for the $24K class they asked my husband to do it. Our friend had maxed out his credit card with his recent flip and they didn’t ask him to go to the boot camp. Who is to say he didn’t have the cash to pay it. Apparently they only wanted ones that could pay with a credit card.

    There were a few people that did sign up for the 3 day boot camp. My husband asked one of the guys to let him know how it was. Hopefully my husband will hear back from one of them when he returns from the boot camp in CA. For their sake I hope they didn’t get scammed.

    Comment by Cindy — May 17, 2010 @ 11:14 am

  202. Cindy,

    I would be interested in hearing back from you on the feedback from the 3 day boot camp. It appears that this is a scam, which is too bad. I signed up for the free seminar being held on May 20th, and I was surprised to see that there are mutiple seminars being held on the same day and time which tells ya that Armand won’t personally attend…which is funny. I won’t be attending now and will continue to purse the path of old fashioned hard work. I would say “Buyer Beware” on this one.

    Comment by Curious Flipper — May 17, 2010 @ 1:21 pm

  203. This guys a hoot! well as all the bad blogging that goes with it!
    I have gotten e-mails from this guy to buy into some expensive flip program and ignored. I watched one of his episodes on flip this house about some Sh#* hole he got back with rotten floors and all and his temper tantrum antics. The lead fix guy I would tell him to tell this AM guy to shove it and go get my own crew to flip houses.
    The power this guy has over others just amazes me!. The crap hole probably had bad floors when he sold it to the previous tenants, with leaky pipes and water damage. After they found all this bad damage to the house realized how bad they got screwed. They could not afford to fix or had no recourse so they quit paying and moved. This show only shows what appears to have happened!… and not the whole story. I would not trust a guy like this with a ten foot pole. Like many people that want to buy a home that have bad credit,no credit or little money have to buy on land contract or lease options. The nature of these contracts assume the house has been inspected but has not!..again no recourse and “as is “with many land contracts of this nature. People are desperate to own a home and forget this very important fact and hence get screwed buy dishonest investor/flippers like this. This gives the whole business a bad name. My thoughts are before you buy a house get and inspection (Cost about $300-400) depending on size and type house. If you can’t afford it get he seller to pay,if he won’t run don’t walk from this deal.
    Just my thoughts on this issue

    Comment by Pat — May 26, 2010 @ 1:35 pm

  204. I read quite a lot of the information posted here and it sound that the detractors are mostly dissatisfied customers. Hey, I once bought a car I later became dissatisfied with. It didn’t mean that Ford cheated me!! I can truly say that Armando Montelongo’s Website information is honest and clear. If anyone feels cheated is because ,more than likely, of their own misconceptions about what to expect.

    I have listened to the CD’s over and over again and I cannot, for the life of me, find anything questionable. Yes, paying as little as possible for a property may not be good for the seller, but there is no encouragement to trick or deceive the seller into selling in any of his teachings.

    Good luck to everyone.


    Comment by Jose — June 4, 2010 @ 10:55 am

  205. I think Armando is a total fraud–like that guy Flip This House had from Atlanta who was arrested for fraud.

    I bet we can prove it. All one has to do it search in the TX SOC office and get a list of all Armando’s companies. Then use the registry of deeds site and see if any of his companies own anything. I already looked up any properties owned in Armando or his wife name and found nothing expect for one property that doesn’t look anything like the property they show as his “personal residence”

    Comment by Alex — June 8, 2010 @ 8:44 pm

  206. In Armando’s seminar he tells you not to put your name on anything even your personal home. Your business is suppose to be the “owner”. They tell you to set up your business in states like DE for tax purposes. His businesses could be registered in another state. Our friend consulted a lawyer in our state and he said there are no benefits in setting up a business in another state, you will still have to pay taxes to the state you live in. I guess every state is different.

    One boot camp has come and gone and we haven’t heard from the person that was going so I will assume he will be going to the boot camp this coming weekend. Crossing my fingers my husband hears from him.

    Comment by Cindy — June 15, 2010 @ 12:25 pm

  207. Has anyone finished the bus tour or the boot camp? And is it everything they promise. Do you make deals and do you feel as if this investment was worth it. I know he has another one of these taking place in Southern California this week-end. I would like to believe that he is really trying to educate people in the Real Estate business. Face everyone there is no free lunch. Education always comes at a price.

    Comment by Curious — June 15, 2010 @ 5:23 pm

  208. While watching TV there was a info commercial that promised this company would show you how to make millions of dollars flipping properties anywhere in the us no matter what state you lived in. How you could get 1 million dollars to start your business using other peoples money. How we would have our own mentor assigned to us. How he would walk us through by the hand and get our business started. So I called and registered for there free conference in New Mexico. While attending the conference the same TV ad was shown and the same promises made. So to get in on the ground floor they wanted 800.00 to attend a 3 day seminar. We had to sign a form that if we changed our mind and wanted a refund we had 72 hours to call there number provided however I could not get through until the 72 hours had passes. I was told that I could not get a refund because I was to late. So I decided to attend the 3 day seminar after I had listened to all of the CD’s and read all the material I received from the conference to which I paid 800.00 for.

    On the first day of the seminar it was spent telling us where to get money. We were told our lunch hour and our homework was to contact all of our credit card companies and ask for limit increases or interest rate reductions. When we returned from lunch the instructor asked if anyone was successful and some students were able to others were already maxed on credit cards and could not get limit increases. Those that were not successful were told to they had homework and it was to continue to try for credit card increases.

    On the second day after we returned from lunch we were finally told about the Bus Tour and what we had seen on the TV and during the conference we had earlier attended. This is where the Bait and Switch happened. In order for us to obtain the promises in the TV ad and during the conference we were told we could purchase 1 of 4 bus tours with the owner.

    GOLD ELITE COST 18, 995.00 No bus tour on this one
    3 Day Boots on the ground
    1 Year of Mentoring
    Weekly Advanced Training Calls
    Real Estate Software

    PLATINUM ELITE COST 29, 995.00
    3 Day VIP Bus Tour
    3 Day Boots on the Ground
    1 year of Mentoring
    Weekly Advanced Training Calls
    Real Estate Software

    DIAMOND ELITE COST 34, 900.00
    3 Day VIP Bus Tour
    3 Day Boots on the Ground
    1 Year of Mentoring
    Asset Protection – Wealth Management Camp
    Creative Financing “NINJANOMICS” Camp
    Weekly Advanced Training Calls
    Real Estate Software

    TITANIUM ELITE COST 49, 900.00
    3 Day VIP Bus Tour
    3 Day Boots on the Ground
    1 Year of Mentoring
    Asset Protection – Wealth Management Camp
    Creative Financing “NINJANOMICS” Camp
    Weekly Advanced Training Calls
    Real Estate Software

    Needless to say this came as a SHOCK to everyone in the entire class. How could we fall for such a Bait and Switch. Everything that was promised in the TV ad and at the conference NEVER happened. If you decide you want to go through with this and you do not purchase ELITE packages your pretty much on your own to figure this out. There was nothing in the 3 day seminar that was different than what was in the 5 books and 12 CD OTHER than the instructor telling us how successful her and her husband have been flipping houses. This was A COMPLETE SCAM…

    Comment by Sharon — June 22, 2010 @ 12:43 pm

  209. If you would like to know were Armando is in California, he is working out of an office in Rancho Cucamonga. Give me an email and let chat more.


    Comment by Allen — June 23, 2010 @ 10:48 pm

  210. He’s currently in Portland, Or. trying to sell the 3day boot camp. Was at yesterday’s seminar and they were over an hour late to start and completely disorganized. Selling the 3 day for $1497.00 and you can bring a “guest” Main speaker was Robbie Law. I have a recording of the pitch……….

    Comment by Anonymous — June 30, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

  211. Just attended the seminar in Ft Myers, Fl. The commercial said “Armondo will be there livem. Just for coming you will get a free dvd, cd and MP3 player”. Okay they were 30 minutes behind schedule…RUDE! Then some Jessie person who was apparently big into name dropping spoke for over an hour about nothing…totally you guys ( she must have said totally and you guys 10000000 time). When she got to the part about the cost for the 3 day classes I got up and walked out. Total waste of my time! False advertising and major dissappointment with Armono :( shame on you!

    Comment by sucker — July 14, 2010 @ 10:45 pm

  212. GOLD ELITE COST: 18, 995.00
    GETTING F%$&@# by Armondo: Priceless

    Comment by Anonymous — July 18, 2010 @ 2:23 am

  213. Just went to the seminar in Houston TX and was dissapointed to say the least. Some good information but nothing to get us ready to begin. They just tell you a little bit in homes of selling the $25,000 package. Unless you can find someone locally that has done this, do not begin. It is all set to evolve you to the bus tour and take lots of money from you.

    One thing I can assure you of is they do not deliver what they say and I hated it was not what they discribed.

    Comment by John — July 18, 2010 @ 3:01 am

  214. I know this is long, but I hope this helps someone!!! I’m a real person with this real story. I wanted to be a success story too, but here’s my nightmare.

    I attended one of his seminars here in NC. My friend and I were excited. We signed up for the 3 day seminar. However, as his free introductory seminar continued, we got the ingenious idea to Google his name using our phones. We instantly became worried. We found so many negative information about him. When we were given the opportunity for a break, I noticed something on one of the slides his young (mid-20 to young 30) presenter did. He listed a number that we could call on his powerpoint slide. It said 1-800-success. So we decided to call that number and received the customer service for AT&T conference club. We immediately got up and spoke with one of his “key” advisers that were in the back taking payments. Of course he had an answer for each of our questions, but was stumped about the number that we informed him of on the powerpoint slide. The presenter even said that we could call this number for help. We decided that since we had 3 days to cancel, that we’d let them keep the sale, and go home to discuss it further. After getting home, my friend and I thought about something. They indicated that you could do this with no credit and no money. Because supposedly you have 1 million dollars accessible to you through so many different ways. But when we spoke with his key adviser, the adviser stated that many of their students have high credit and no money, or money and bad credit. What they do is partner with those with high credit and have them sell their contracts to them, but under the stipulation that they get to use their credit. They partner with those that have money but bad credit and have them sell their contracts to them. The next day 6/18/2010, I called their customer service number that was listed at the bottom of our contract to cancel. I informed her that it was indicated that I had three days to do so, and that I’d like to exercise that right. Now the cost of this seminar was 1497.00. From what I read on Google, after the 3 day boot camp then they push you to purchase a 27000 package from them to help you get started. I did all that they said for me to do. I’ve been fighting to get my money back and it’s 67/26/2010. I had to call my prepaid legal lawyers to get into it yesterday. I made an honest attempt to handle it myself. I keep getting “the check is due to be cut today” run around. It went from it will be deposited back into your account in 24 hours, to 48 hours, to 2 weeks, to a check is going to be mail in 4 weeks and you will be given a tracking number. Don’t trust these people!!! It’s definitely a scam. Even though they claim to give you your money back in 6 months if you don’t turn a profit, there’s alot of loop holes and conditions that allow them to keep your money.

    Comment by Lucinda — July 26, 2010 @ 12:40 pm

  215. If you are thinking about giving this guy money (THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS) your brain is betraying you. If he could do all he says, wouldn’t he buy and sell the houses and make more and more money? Wouldn’t he be IN the Real Estate Investing Fort Profit business exclusively instead of scamming people (There are plenty of testimonials)? Wouldn’t he have a well established company with an address and telephone # where you could always find someone to represent him? Wouldn’t he have established some good will in the communities where he does business? Where is all that? A bunch of flimsy, quick-talking pages with no substance. BUYER BEWARE!!!!!! Your anguish and regret are priceless!!!

    All the posts trying to bail him out are i8nsubstantial, badly written and use the same type of language he does. That’s all he knows and he uses it with a vengeance. He shows contempt for his prospective “customers”. DO NOT SEND HIM 1 PENNY!!!

    Comment by Oskar Fiere — July 28, 2010 @ 10:03 am

  216. Taken from another website at


    Potash wrote:

    Re: The Cat House: copied from my post on another site (I really have bought and sold more than 100 houses in my life, but I do not sell or give advice) :
    I hate this show because it is staged for dramatic effect. But I got a new DVR and decided to program the DVR to record a couple of dozen programs over the next week as an experiment. The Flip This House episode Saturday was one of the programs. After seeing that it was someone new, and not those clowns from Benchmark Realty (or whatever they are called), and that the house was in extraordinarily bad shape (cat, rat, roach droppings everywhere), I decided to watch it.

    This is the house, 12906 Lone Shadow Trail in San Antonio, TX:

    This is the guy that did the rehab, Armando Montelongo:

    The show had the usual Reality TV standards… a couple of attractive women, a false drama about meeting the scheduled opening house date, conflict between the partners, recreated sceens where it is obvious that there would be no camera person on site normally, a final price scorecard that failed to include holding costs, closing costs, and the costs of sale, and a final profit calculation which is based upon an alleged signed contract resulting from the first open house (accoridng to the Bexar County Recorder records Montelongo, aka 12906 Lone Shadow Trust, bought he property on December 8, 2006, but has not sold it yet) But the thing that irrated me more than anything about this episode was that this BS artist claimed to have bought and remodeled more than 1000 houses in the past 5 years. The first time he said it, I just assumed that he had meant that he had seen more than a thousand houses in the past 5 years, but he said it a second time!! There is no way this joker, even if you factor in that he is working with his brother and both wives, has bought more than a 1000 houses in the past 5 years. If your buying anywhere near that many houses you have to employe a dozen or more fulltime workers. He didn’t have any fulltime workers, in fact he was hiring contractors to do everything, and paying inflated prices because of the false urgency of the open house date.

    I would be surprised if Armando Montelongo has bought and sold more than a dozen houses in entire life, it is clear to me that he used this show just to advertise his faux guru services. Too bad for Aramado Montelongo that he got his A$$ kicked by this house. The show says that he bought the house for $55,000, put $85,000 into it, sold it via an open house by his wife for $165,000, for a $25,000 profit. But the County records indicate that he paid $101,400 for it and hasn’t sold it yet. He most likely lost $30,000 on this property, unless he stiffed the contractors which is a good possiblity.

    I was going to say that I would periodoically check Bankruptcy records in anticipation of a BK filing from him, but he filed Chapter 13 BK on 11/10/03 (03-32986), and he is still operating under the Chapter 13 plan!, in fact on 2/5/07 he filed a motion to modify his payment plan because he claimed his only income was from diability insurance and that he could only afford to pay $150.00 per month. And his Brother/Partner David is also still operating under a Chapter 13 Bankruptcy from 2003 (03-31980).

    Posted on 07-May-07 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Kym wrote:

    This is interesting to read. I am so glad I found this. Potosh: I, too, search the Public Records for more info. Not sure when Trademark did their flip, the “The House that would not sell: episode is still listed on their website. Now they never claimed to have sold it either. Armando does seem like a bit of a creep, and does not suprise me that they are in Chapter 13. I’m sure their money is coning from the show, and not houses.

    Posted on 07-May-07 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Comment by Oskar Fiere — July 28, 2010 @ 10:18 am

  217. Dear Readers,

    I just went to the AM seminar this morning in Newport News, Virginia. I knew something was wrong from the moment the lady in the front of the conference room handed me my name tag: She slammed it on the table in front of her. She was arrogant, quick, and rude, just like the speakers that followed her act.

    My first impression of this AM seminar foreshadowed the presentations. Jessie Connors and the young man with glasses–I didn’t catch his name because he was talking way too fast–had an arrogance about them. Both were quick to repeat, repeat, and repeat their pitches for the three-day seminar and AM’s products. At first Jessie stated the $6,000, three-day seminar would be in Texas, but by the end of her presentation of pitching the seminar and praising her celebrity status (with slides), visitations to 20 countries, and “distant” investments, she announced the three-day seminars would (miraculously) be in “here for today’s fee of $1,495.” The inconsistency only added to my initial perception of the ruthlessness by the AM team.

    The young man that followed Jessie had the common sense to dress professionally and comb his hair, yet he sang the same persuasive tune as she did. Fortunately, his presentation wasn’t good enough to manipulate everyone in the room, and I’m GRATEFUL I learned more about THEIVES than foreclosures, REOs, short sells, and tax liens today.

    As for the rudeness, it followed to the end. Jessie was rude to MISINFORM (repeatedly) the audience, and the young man was rude to talk FASTER than emails are sent and received. If the whole AM pitch was worth it, shouldn’t the information be consistent and verbally presented in a normal pace so everyone could believe and understand what was being said?

    Most definitely BBS and others alike must be informed, and so should CNN, Oprah, ABC News, as well as NBC, CBS, FOX, etc. I suggest we copy and paste our concerns to the media IMMEDIATELY!

    Sadly, though, I worry about the ones–the senior citizens, the physically challenged, the young and naive ones, and the rest–who rushed to the back of the room to take out their credit cards and pay for the three-day seminar, which leads to other, even more expensive seminars.

    After attending today’s free seminar, I would NOT recommend anything from AM and his colleagues, and from now on I will NEVER watch his show either.


    Comment by Grateful — July 28, 2010 @ 11:33 pm

  218. he is in so cal now. aug. boiler previews to begin 9th. hold your money tight. the names are different but the pitch is the same. all tv cons are the same. they get rich, you get poor.

    Comment by so cal — July 31, 2010 @ 11:29 pm

  219. My husband and I just got back from 3 day boot on the ground VIP tour with AM. It was very pumped up and their were probably 200 or so people there. He spoke for 1 day. We were on the bus for 2 days looking at homes to buy and training on how to evaluate them to repair and flip. I think he was a good speaker as far as the training part, but this was the same training that we received in our home town, which was boots on the ground also. Basically we paid $25k for 3 repeats of the same thing, just different people and their style and ways of doing flips. I was more impressed with Steve, than Linda and I hate to say it even AM. All I can say is that if we don’t get what we paid for and make the money we are suppose to, I will surely report him and take him to court. I have most of this stuff on tape.

    Keep you all updated as time goes on and we have purchased a few homes in CA. and his realitors better sell them for us as promised.

    Comment by Sherry — August 7, 2010 @ 9:25 pm

  220. I forgot to mention. He lived in CA for 1 1/2 years and moved back to Austin, TX. is what we were told. We didn’t even get a snack during the VIP tour. Just coffee and water. Pretty cheap if you ask me. He had his brother Paul there and his other brother to do repairs on homes in CA.

    Comment by Sherry — August 7, 2010 @ 9:34 pm

  221. Hi all Well Armondo is on tv in wisconsin now selling his program. He reminds me of Don pardow or what ever his name was. How do they get these familys to do the interviews if its all fake?? email me with info please

    Comment by Carrie desrand — August 14, 2010 @ 8:53 am

  222. after seeing an informercial, we called and made a reservation to attend AM’s seminar tomorrow in Long Beach,CA. We never received the email with the information of where it is to be held so I decided to look on line to see what information I could find on AM. I guess we are the lucky ones….we won’t be attending and hearing all the BS he seems to be giving everyone.

    Comment by feeling lucky — August 21, 2010 @ 3:03 am

  223. I find it hard to believe that with the technology today and the information about scams, people are still being taken advantage of. I do a search on these enticing informercials and products that I like before I buy. I have saved myself a lot of money. I was about to attend this seminar on Tuesday here in Charleston, SC, until I read this blog (Sept.8-10, 2010). I now want to go and warn people not to give up their hard earned money to this scam. This is rediculous that so many are continuing to fall for this scam. Why can’t he be stopped? People need to realize that if it sounds too good to be true, they need to investigate first. Just type the name or product in your serach engine and look for reviews.

    Looks like this has been going on for years, since the date on this blog started in 2007. Why is it that nothing can be done about this man. The infomercial clearly says no money down to get started. Yet people are paying up to $49,000….OMG people wake up. I eally do want to go and warn people. Do you think they would have me arrested if I stood outside and discouraged people?

    Comment by Peggy — September 5, 2010 @ 7:45 pm

  224. I JUST WENT to the intro seminar in San Luis Obispo , Calif. and after the great speakers and very convincing hoop lah, I also signed up for the 3 day and in addition a tax lien deal. Well, I have spent most of the past 3 days trying to contact the office to cancel this via their one 877 number available with almost no response until this afternoon at 3pm and almost too late. When I asked for a fax number to fax a cancellation notice, none was given…so now I will try to cancel via my credit card company before the traditional 3 business days are up.. Still no one could tell me how to return their items or what they want to do with them. After reading all these blogs,,info etc…., it seems to be as bad a deal as Rich Dad Poor Dad seminars in which the same exact tactics are used with huge continuing education fees and sign ups for more and more seminars or whatevers..
    I believe that the hotels and papers that allow these advertisements and the hotels that allow the intro seminars should also be liable or able to be sued for their complicity in this.

    Comment by GARY — September 15, 2010 @ 9:55 pm

  225. I was going to call and attend the seminar but missed the number at the bottom of the screen. THANK GOD. I googled his name and this was the first link to pop up. Thank you everyone on here for your info on this SCAM. THIS MAN SHOULD BE ARRESTED. THE NEXT MADOFF

    Comment by Bea — September 19, 2010 @ 1:53 pm

  226. I saw the infomercial late the other evening and called and was pleased to be able to bring my two sons and son-in-law. But, I thought I better do a bit of due diligence and google this fellow to see if I can stir up any dirt prior to attending. Well this was more than I could have imagined.

    I also do not understand how he can be allowed to continue with out disclosing all of the potential costs up front. Instead he leads one through the various levels and with costs that you are sure to feel like they would be wasted if you do not pay to advance. This type of tactic has to be tied to the “bait and switch” laws to protect the public.

    I an now debating on whether to tell my sons that I almost dragged them into this. I will, because this will show them that even I am getting smarter.

    Comment by Ken — September 23, 2010 @ 5:11 pm

  227. If it seems to go good to be true……it usually is…..JUMP!

    Comment by Eddie Van Halen — September 26, 2010 @ 6:14 am

  228. Ok you caught me….! I know, I know….NOBODY is making any money in real estate right now….however, I am making money preying on innocent people…..AND….I can sleep at night! Greed baby, the root of all evil….and it is oxygen for me!

    Comment by Armando — September 26, 2010 @ 6:18 am

  229. Armando,

    If this was you that made this comment above me, well then wait, because we are going to complain to the Attorney General in every state. How dare you take hard working peoples money. I paid you $27,000.00 and you are not holding up to your deal. What the heck is wrong with you. I really thought that you of all hispanic people wouldn’t take advantage of people. You talk about what goes around comes around and being honest. Well, I guess you are not a man of your word. Pretty Sad. If you think you are going to continue to take advantage of people, think again. My faith in Jesus will help all the people and me that you have taken advantage of. I am going to pray for you, that you change quick and become a man of your word and you stop taking advantage of people. I am sooooo heart broken for what you have done to me and others, but I know in my heart that God will see me through the loss you have taken from me and others. Veronica, shame on you too for allowing your husband to do this to people that just want to make a little money to help their families and others. I hope you redeem your self soon, because if you don’t, I will contact every state and file a complaint with the Attorney Generals Office. MSMBH

    Comment by Mary — September 28, 2010 @ 8:07 pm

  230. I’ve seen this assclowns infomercial for several years now and I knew it was all bullshit when, somewhere in the middle of it, he holds up his left hand with the middle finger of his right hand on the left wrist and he says, “I’ve got my pulse on the real estate market …”

    Btw I think the A&E show “Flip” blows. I was tortured for all of 30 seconds while watching it once before my remote jumped into my hand …


    Comment by Mystic — October 9, 2010 @ 10:50 am

  231. @Mary — {taps Mary lightly on the shoulder} Uhhh …. Mary? Uhhh ….. hmmm. “Armando” up above …. uhhh …. *sigh* …. he’s ….. uhhh ……. mmmm …… *sigh* …. he’s really ….. uhhh …. ohhh … nevermind.


    Comment by Mystic — October 9, 2010 @ 11:20 am

  232. “Just finished the Corpus Christi, Tx. seminar, and
    did not purchase the program, course materials with the 3 day workshop at $1500.00.
    But as I was leaving I tried getting a business card from one of the staff members but he replied that they do not handout business cards?

    @JJ — Odd? Not really. The whole premise of keeping your money after one has willingly given it up (even though there may be a money back guarantee) is making it tough to contact them to request a refund, such has been many folks’ experience here with 800#s, emails, no fax#, etc. Business cards have a tendency to include contact info …


    Comment by Mystic — October 9, 2010 @ 11:47 am

  233. Btw, talk about flip …

    He’s trying to “flip” the “negative blogspotting” in his favor. One of the returns on my search for “armando montelongo scam” (keywords) was the webpage, above, that simply links you away to one of his websites. What a failtard.


    Comment by Mystic — October 9, 2010 @ 12:04 pm

  234. Dear Dateline,

    I am attaching this informational link for your perusal….regarding the alleged fraud and theft that Armando Montelongo has been engaging in….

    I think it would make a great investigative story… might also want to investigate the due diligence that certain networks do or, rather, fail to do with regard to the product they are putting out there….I guess there is no Roger Goodell or Bud Selig of Networks…

    Please check the link and read some of the comments….do some research….and ask yourselfs…do you see what i/we see….a great story…and a good story….a chance to make a difference…and maybe right some wrongs along the way…..

    I am attaching your link as well……to give any of the other astonished, bewildered (as to why this man is not in jail) posters a
    chance to opine……

    I think that Dateline could do some real good with an investigative piece on this.


    Comment by Tim Engel — October 11, 2010 @ 9:04 pm

  235. I am so thankful to read all of your comments. I took off work today to attend AM’s seminar in Pittsburgh,PA. I was very skeptical going in and during but like many others, have had a desire to flip homes mostly because I can do the repair myself and it seems profitable. The speaker did a great job of recruiting and ALMOST sucked me in! I prayed a lot today because even though my consious told me this all seemed too good to be true, I really wanted to somehow improve things for my family because things have been pretty bad for us for a while. I don’t like to think of how much worse things may have become. This one decision might have been the final straw for my marriage. Again, I can’t thank all of you enough for taking the time to tell of your terrible misfortunes. I don’t know if this helps at all but I’m guessing I’m not the only one you have helped tremendously and tonight when I lay down, I will ask God to please help those who have lost because of this. 8/12/2010

    Comment by Eric B — October 12, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

  236. It is a whistle blow

    Armando Montelongo program is a scam. I went to this seminar; in the seminar he is selling a three day $1500 program.

    After the seminar I went and sat with the counselor to find out more by asking few questions.

    I went and sat with his counselor and asked the questions below.

    1Q) Does this $1500 program gives practical hands on sessions, but not giving an theoretical idea and asking us to do it? I gave a distinguish example procedure in words to prepare a stool or take the tools in hand and prepare it in the workshop.
    Answer from the counselor: Yes there will be three days classes with practical hands on sessions with a mentor holding your hand and guiding through it and get yours and mentor hands dirty on the job. The counselor said a mentor will be beside me to make a stool in the workshop.

    2Q) Does this $1500 program gives all the information about the real estate market, its strategies, how to find, fix, sell, finance and everything about the real estate?
    Answer from the counselor: Even you are new to the market, don’t worry. This program will teach everything about real estate from top to bottom and gives you a mentor to help along the way where ever you are.

    3Q) Is there any hidden cost other than $1500, down the road or at any moment for all the above program which the instructor is promising?
    Answer from the counselor: No there is no hidden cost other than $1500 dollars you are paying right now. For the amount of money your are paying you will get practical sessions, all strategies, Getting your hands dirty on the job, a mentor to guide you so that u can make a right decision to make a profit ,finding the property ,fixing the property, financing the property, and selling the property in a real estate.

    4Q) why is he doing it, explaining his hidden treasure and sharing his wealth to other people?
    Answer from the counselor: In his life he stayed in a car parking garage with his wife and children and he has no food to eat. He struggled a lot in his life, he knows how badly if u stay poor, so promised his wife that he is going to help people after he reached happiness in his life.

    5Q) How well this program fits a new guy in real-estate?
    Answer from the counselor: This program is perfect, with in limited time you will be wealthy.
    After hearing all the promises from Armando montelongo team I paid $1500 on my credit card and went to three classes.

    Not only the questions above I asked few more, which will still length this writing, so I wrote only important

    One the first day free seminar class where Armando’s team is selling $1500 three day package, his team promised everything whatever I said before and didn’t even gave a simple clue that this is just a partial fee and the total package cost is $30000.If by any chance Armando counselor expressed that, before paying $1500 I would have never got into this at all.

    Armando’s team framed this total program in step wise how to get too much money into their pockets, without even giving a small clue that it is a Ponzi pyramid.

    I talked to few people in three day class, they expressed it a disaster, and they wouldn’t got into this if they know earlier it is an expensive course. The few people in the class, who I talked, felt the same way.

    Hear this /Read this:
    In all the classes Armando Montelongo team didn’t even explain clearly one strategy ,but showed pictures of their family members vacationing in beaches, riding motor bikes, pictures of ugly homes buying for small amount of cash and selling for
    big profits, how to cheat people by setting different layers of land trust so that nobody can sue him, how many credit cards he has, how to apply for credit cards, how you will be left with lot of debt after taking university approved (like nursing, engineering and other etc) courses which are government backed programs and lots of nonsense stuff.

    And on the second day evening after coffee break Armando’s team broke the silence saying the total package cost is $30000 which will give you everything about real estate a mentor to guide you, a first property with hands on session and much more promises promises and promises.

    On the second day program, afternoon around 1.00 pm before breaking silence about $30000 they made the classroom fill a financial assessment and consultation sheet. In that sheet they asked lot of questions about how many credit cards you have with limits, your bank balance, your address of stay and so much personal information. I got scared by looking at it but finally filled that sheet (You know why I filled it “a stupidest idea stuck my mind, may be by looking at that sheet Armando team might help me work on hot real estate markets by seeing it”)

    Second day after the coffee break (around 4.00 pm) as I heard about $30000 I got shocked, couldn’t take a breath. A guy sitting beside me started cursing and he got sick and left. I could explain how bad my state is. I couldn’t drive my car properly back home after the class, couldn’t eat for few days, debt left on the card, hard to swallow the truth, and couldn’t explain clearly to my wife, lot of stress. I got really upset and to tell you the truth that $1500 I have to spend on my health but I paid for Armando lies.

    After lot of people attending one day free seminar class and hearing Armando Montelongo team promises approximately 160 people paid $1500 and attended the three days In those three day classes I have seen lot of senior citizens, disabled, Minor who is 17 years old and people who does not know nothing. Armando team made approximately $1500×160 count =$240,000 on those three days. I don’t know why federal, state
    Governments couldn’t stop Armando team. There are just bagging poor people like me by telling lot of false information, lies and misleading.

    Please somebody stop him. I am giving you the worst part they have lot of my personal information by that form I filled on the second day. Three counselors from Armando team called me offering different packages at different levels, one Counselor
    called from a Texas phone code, second counselor from New York phone code and third counselor from California phone code.
    Is Armando Selling my personal information too? I am sorry I don’t want to mess with them.

    Few more hints I am giving you: The $30000 package is called a bus tour which he will make lot of promises on that tour too but nothing written and signed legally by him. A comfort bus will have approximately 38 to 42 people on board. So a full bus
    is making him $30000×38 people count =$1,140,000 . WOW one million dollars, oh god please lawyers stop him.

    This is true, I hate to write .Readers please think about it .If I am only one feeling the pain ignore my writing, if not please god help Armando Montelongo to understand my pain and teach him some good values.

    Excuse me Sir Armando Montelongo, if you are reading this letter I don’t think you are feeling my pain, but it’s true SIR. I pray god to give you good mind set. Sorry for this letter. Sir please doesn’t say in your seminars that you are helping people and use a family sentiment drama.

    Is it a scam or not?

    Comment by sammy — October 13, 2010 @ 10:13 am

  237. Sammy, Sammy, Sammy–
    Do not even look to an attorney to help you. What needs to be done is to call the Better Business Bureau, the City Attorney General and the State Attorney General to help. I was a victim of this guys scam, and feel the same way that you do. The bbbureau and all the attorney general’s offices will help without any cost to you. Also, contacting MSNBC for Dateline may put a stop to these deceptive business practices. Good luck.

    Comment by Dianne — October 14, 2010 @ 10:19 pm

  238. Run as fast as you can!!!!

    Comment by Tess — October 30, 2010 @ 6:06 pm

  239. Mary and Sammy, I am so sorry for you; but there is a God that will judge this evil team for all these frauds. On the other hand I am so thankful to read your experiences and cancel my attendance to the free seminar in TX.
    I learned another big truth. There is a lot of information on books that will teach you on the real state. Thanks to all.

    Comment by Danmor — October 31, 2010 @ 11:16 am

  240. i went to the seminar in pittsburgh. the morning one if that means anything to anybody. I really enjoyed it but still needed more questions answered. I see now that i made the right choice by not buying anything that day. i do have the book Flip and Grow Rich. i have yet to even read it. But i want to believe that we can make money with realestate. and that the tax liens part of it will work. If Armando’s information is valid, how can we do it without paying $3000.00 for it? his seminar was all about getting an education. I have to say that on that day i definately did get educated. I’m all for paying to get the knowledge, but how much? Although we have all seen infomercials from years past, remember “selling ads in all newspapers? how about “Tony Robbins” ? I think that at least you got something out of this one, The “Ronco” cooking collection was great..
    anyway, we gotta get out from this rut and climb the ladder of success.

    Comment by mike — November 1, 2010 @ 1:20 pm

  241. WOW, Interesting… I have been reading all about Armando on this site and I’m glad I did. I was going to go to his California “FREE” workshops, but I wanted to do my due deligence first. Thank god I did. This sounds like, Dave Del Dotto” back in the early 90’s. Same thing, I attended a “FREE” workshop only to be sold a weekend package for “special training from our team” that was the selling point. BS.. just another fast talking guy, NOT Dave, trying to get you to go to another 3 day HANDS ON class for more money. My advice, do your due deligence. Good luck.

    Comment by Rafael — November 3, 2010 @ 11:31 pm

  242. At the bottom of the contract it says, “You, the buyer, may cancel this transaction at any time prior to midnight of the third business day after the date of this transaction by mailing a cancellation form to Armando Montelongo Seminars, 2935 Thousand Oaks #6-285 San Antonio, Texas 78247. Please call our customer service department for an explanation of this right.” The trick is, talking to someone in customer service to get a cancellation form before the deadline. You always get a machine telling you to leave a message and they will get back to you…and they don’t… until the 3 day deadline has passed. I sent a memo on plain white paper via certified mail telling them to chargeback the $1497.00 to my account. Two and a half weeks later and still no chargeback. Small claims court here I come. Here in California, people go to prison for this kind of mischief.

    Comment by rich overholt — November 7, 2010 @ 8:17 pm

  243. Well I Guess I Wasted 1500 bucks and 3 days of my life. At the free seminar you are promised small group, lead you by the hand,practical training and land trust paperwork when you sign up for the 3 day class. You will not receive any of this. Just lots of sob stories about poor shlubs who couldn’t even pay their child support but are now filthy rich. The people that paid big bucks for the advanced training got little more than access to websites that you can buy for about $30/Month. They initially offered me the Mentoring for $30,000, but kept lowering the price. Now it’s down to $12,500. I think I’ll pass.

    Comment by fooledmeonce — November 13, 2010 @ 5:49 am

  244. This scheme/scam or whatever you call it is ongoing. My wife and I just attended a 3 day workshop in Irvine, CA for the cost of $1500. I saw the informercial for the free workshop and we attended and made a bad choice and signed up for the workshop. We also paid for a $800 tax lien program (web site with login). We were told that the 3 day workshop would explain securing loans (up to 1 million dollars within 24 hours despite bad credit scores), access to REO (bank owned properties), purchasing, fixing and flipping properties.

    The first day of the 3 day workshop was mostly focused finding out your credit score, improving bad credit, and securing larger credit lines for people with good and great credit. It was like a game, the speaker (Linda Woolf, google her name and scam and you will see how she was recently involved in a similiar stock scam that defrauded the public out of millions!) promised a $2500 free gift for the top students that were able to extend their credit lines the most and lower their APR just by asking. Some students raised their credit lines over 75k. This was the first step in their plan. So when they dropped the large bus tour charge on us in the coming days, most of the students would have no excuse about not having the money. They even said that if you charged the $30,000 that it would really only cost you 3 months worth of interest and minimum payments because it typically takes less than 3 months to flip your first house.
    Day 2 was focused on finding private money lenders but mostly on the bus tour, boots on the ground mentorship and other parts of the package. 1 package was 30k and the other is 40k.
    By the end of the day, all hope was lost that there was any bit of truth to the system/ program. It’s truly sad, they had some hard sell guys and some softer who all worked every angle possible to make you believe this worked for them and could make you rich.
    These guys told us not to speak with your fellow students if you had any questions, only speak to them. They hovered over us and interrupted us many times when we spoke to other students about any number of different topics. They even warned us from trading business cards and contact information. When we asked about their personal info (where they live and work), they had answers for everything, but never any factual information. One guy (Charles said he was from NC, but lived in Greenwich CT, Managed a hedge fund with another private guy in Boston. He said he was brought here as an financial expert who could advise on converting your IRA and 401K accounts into cash so you could start flipping homes. Basically they can show you how to leverage any of your assets to pay for their instruction/ mentorship and then you can make millions! What a disgraceful scam!

    I could go on and on about more terrible things that were said and done. But the worst part was watching good people who dream of having personal financial freedom swipe $30k on their credit cards. It was like a cult like atmosphere, they get you to plug in with some basic information such as the short sale process, 65% value of a home, land trusts, credit scores, and setting up LLC’s and SCorps. It was a classic bait and switch scam. We never were told anything regarding the $30k up sale at the one day free workshop. If we knew, we never would have attended. I still can’t get over the face they have the nerve to ask for such massive amounts of money and that people actually pay it.
    Something needs to be done about everybody involved in AM scam. His main presenter, Linda Woolf is a fraud, she told us how she made millions flipping and developing properties in Utah, but she was on infomercials selling another similiar scam about a stock trading system. Its all lies and she is a master at her craft.
    I implore anyone who is thinking of attending any of these conferences to use google and search all key words regarding these people and see for yourself what is out their on them.
    When there is smoke, there is fire, and it’s burning out of control!
    Due you do diligence! BUYER BEWARE!!!

    Comment by Greg — November 17, 2010 @ 1:59 am

  245. Armondo’s salesl reps have been calling me repeatedly for a week and telling me that I’m just the guy their looking for to be the next big success story. apparently having a high FICO score and large credit limits are the main two factors that got their attention. I was going to buy a new Fender guitar with that 1500 bucks that I wasted at their “seminar” . If you want to get the info that I paid all that money for you can probably find the package for sale on E-BAY or craigslist really cheap.

    Comment by fooledmeonce — November 18, 2010 @ 5:03 am

  246. I just attended this 3 day seminar. To me and all the people I spoke with there this was well worth the $1500 fee. It was hard to keep up and retain all the practical new information we received. There were about 200 people in this seminar for all 3 days. Had it been bad, half the people would have dropped out after the 1st day. Everyone seemed to enjoy it. I made 7 new friends I feel like I can identyfy and keep in touch with. A few of us signed up for the bus tour and split the high cost. I have nothing but positive to tell you all……

    Comment by CA architect — November 22, 2010 @ 1:28 pm

  247. CA architect I really hope you will come back and let us know about the bus tour. We never heard back from the guy that signed up for it around here and that was months ago. I truly pray he was successful with the bus tour.

    As for anyone not walking out the first day of the seminar I don’t think anyone would. They were already in it for $1500.

    I agree that some of the information they give is useful but for the price it isn’t worth it. Majority of it can be found online.

    Isn’t amazing how the price drops for the bus tour if you say “no”?. I bet that money the people pay goes towards the purchase of the “flip houses” they purchases for the bus tour. The money needs to come from somewhere.

    Comment by Cindy — November 30, 2010 @ 3:55 pm

  248. Well, I did NOT attend the seminar in California as I stated I would not on my last posting. However, a friend did and found out exactly what this site talks about. ONE BIG SCAM.. He and his wife are very upset and are currently trying to get their money back. GOOD LUCK….It’s unfortunate that in today’s difficult economic times there are people like Armando and his team ready to take advantage of those looking for that GET RICH EASY THING.. but, I guess this is the best time to do it, people are desperate.
    I feel for those that continue to hand their money over to these people and their scam. PLEASE, if there is anybody out there that has actually found this program to be useful and has made money at it, I would love to know. I say again, I have not attended a seminar, but I believe that where there is smoke there is fire and frankly this scam is a 4 alarm fire.

    Comment by Rafael — December 8, 2010 @ 1:23 am

  249. Regarding post #240 (above), court is set for 12/17/10. Hope Armando or one of his mutts has the cajones to show up. Will keep you all apprised of the disposition of the case.

    Comment by Rich Overholt — December 9, 2010 @ 4:03 pm

  250. Council for Real Estate Training Intl. LLC showed up at the last moment. She asked if I was Richard Overlook! Asked for a continuance. Court will convene 1:30, Friday, 1/7/10. By that time $1547.00 should be credited to the Visa account. Time will tell.

    Comment by Rich Overholt — December 18, 2010 @ 3:00 pm

  251. Touchdown! $1547.00 ($1497.00 seminar fee and $50.00 small claim filing and proof of service fees) back in the Visa account.
    Happy New Year.

    Comment by Rich Overholt — December 20, 2010 @ 6:09 pm

  252. I think the few people on here that have defended Armondo are full of it! And where is any proof that he’s something other than a scam?And if he’s not a scam, than why is he not rebutting a site like this, slamming his supposedly good name, taking legal action of his own if it’s not true!? What people say about him?? Wouldn’t this all be considered wrongful decimation of character!?, lol I can attest to much of the bad said about him, and thankfully didn’t get screwed out of money. I saw a commercial for a free seminar of his in Garden City, Long Island New York at a hotel. Sign up fast, seating is limited! I figured what the hell. I went, free coffee/ pastry. Fast talkers representing Armando, but no Armando! Everything said about these seminars and the people is true! And how many rushed to charge anywhere from $1500.00 to $2200.00! The gimmick the first x amount of people to do so would get a kit, of Which they only had like 12-15! It’s sad he made a fortune, also had one going on in NYC! I’m glad I saw the writing on the wall. I left having waisted several hours and having received my free cd. And even better, there was no free MP3 player as advertised. You were given a “redemption card” to fill out and mail to Texas, and you’d get your MP3 player in the mail. Guess what, filled it out, mailed it, NEVER got it!!! And let me also add, in the literature they had there, part of the fine print at the bottom that nobody usually bothers to read, it says that with all that is discussed, ” the stated results (success stories) talked about “ARE NOT TYPICAL” can you say one of the many Red Flags!!

    I hope the guy gets busted, and does real long, real hard time, and developes a fear of bending over to pick up the soap!

    Comment by Steve adams — December 22, 2010 @ 3:11 pm

  253. I’m in No. Fl. – about 3 hours ago I happened to see his infomercial on TV. He will be in Tallahassee I believe on Jan. 11th and 13th if I’m not mistaken. I’m a real estate investor who has bot and sold properties before and I thought I would attend to see if I could pick up any new tips, tricks, or updates on forclosure techniques. I assumed if I liked the seminar I might buy a book or CD while I was there – no big deal in spending a few bucks for info. I know most seminars always try to “up sell” you and some want to sucker you into these “coaching” programs. As I said, if I like the presentation and I get something out of it I might buy a book or CD but I never fall for the “get rich quick”, “coaching”, or “mentoring” BS… After I heard the infomercial I did some online homework as I usually do before I invest in anything like this. I want to thank all the posters here for taking the time and effort to post their experiences with this outfit. After my checking his website and not finding a company telephone number or address there and not finding any upcoming seminar schedule on the site the first red flag went up – then after checking a few other sites with information on AM, along with this one, it’s quite obivious there’s too many negatives and very few positives about AM’s MO . Thank you again for keeping me from wasting my time. I am very sorry to hear about all those that claim they did not receive anything close to what they were promised – someone should post an email address that everyone here can contact so you all can group together and compare notes and legally stop this guy if he’s a scammer. Always remember – “if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck” well you know the rest…..

    Comment by Mr. Joe — January 2, 2011 @ 12:18 am

  254. He is giving a seminar in jacksonville, florida 1/5/11.

    Comment by Brenda — January 5, 2011 @ 12:45 am

  255. I just saw one of his guys Lance give a presentation and was very convincing but something told me to hold off on the $1500 fee. After reading this””” There is a God “”” I am barely making it and another $1500 debt would have really hurt my family. Thank You all……..

    Comment by Got Saved — January 5, 2011 @ 8:42 pm

  256. Ty all who posted their comments …I saw his informercial the other day, and decided to reserve my spot at his seminar here in NO Ca.
    1st thing was the lady I spoke with was working out of her own home, which she said she was not supposed to tell me…than the date they had on their infomercial was wrong…it said the 17th, and when she put in my info to attend it came up the 18th…geeez don’t they even know their own dates and locations…sooo glad I have been here first and done my research to find out about this loser…not only will I not be attending, but I will be encouraging everyone I know who’s thinking about it to not waste their time or hard earned money on this bullshit scam…

    Comment by TY TY TY TY..... — January 11, 2011 @ 3:46 pm

  257. If Armondo was making all this money in realestate he would not be staying in hotels,pitching his b.s.Thats were the money comes from

    Comment by tom — January 20, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

  258. to all buying the bs, I went to 3 freebies (different cities/used different name) and its a lot of the same people at the back of the room buying the bus tours

    you can check this too, if you handle it right, cuz they do watch for the good guys looking to bust their fraud/lies

    Comment by Jack Kennedy — January 29, 2011 @ 3:36 pm

  259. I stay in Montgomery Alabama and he got a 3day course coming and I don’t know what to believe. So if there is anyone out there who have ever made some money from Armando please speak up … thanks Mr.confused

    Comment by Anonymous — February 3, 2011 @ 10:18 pm

  260. This guy is a scam. As a mortgage professional I will tell you that a hard money lender would be retarded to lend on people with no income or credit let alone experience. I make six figures a year doing loans and would never tell someone it is all easy… What a fat punk

    Comment by robert — February 13, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

  261. I’m glad I read all these comments WOW! I’m calling back to cancel my attendance!!!!! Everyone save your money!!!

    Comment by Eric medina — February 16, 2011 @ 10:49 am

  262. Hi people. I attended the 3 day 1,500 seminar in Charlotte. Folk SAVE YOUR MONEY. While there were a few good tips during the seminair but the team werent polished instructors- meaning they knew their material; but were sure to tell you only the basic information in how to do deals. My instructor gave info on buying billboards and other stuff that I guess was a “Bonus”.
    But the info he provided again was the basic “how to” most of which I could have learned from purchasing a few books at Barnes and Nobles.
    I like most folks did a little bit of research before attending, but decided to go. 2 days after the sales seminar; I called the customer service number on the agreement, and asked for a course outline; she told me that a outline and workbook materials would be provided so I felt better about the course and did not cancel; so at that point I decided that not to cancel and proceed.
    The first day of the seminar was spent on cleaning up your credit, and ways to increase your existing credit lines. We were also asked to complete a financial analysis worksheet- defining your liquid assests.
    They were preparing the lambs for the slaughter!!!!!!!!!

    The Second day, provided us some good basic techniques; but again the teacher was all over the place. He gave good one or liner points without much detail or explanation. When pressed to go into detail; he promised to come back (which never happened)to the topic or restated the original explanation- Useless….
    The best thing about the second day was that he provided some good websites.. some that I’ve never heard of before- and were mostly free. Approximately 2 hours throughtout the day were devoted to references to the “Bus tour”. Oh and by the way we were dismissed at 3pm not 5 as planned.

    Day 3 Slaughter Day.
    Each person or team had a interview with the staff to go over your approach for being successful in the investing business. Each person’s approach was to be customized to help them become successful.
    Here is where the final leg of the scheme kicked in. As it turns out; what they are really doing is sizing you up to determine if you are financially able to afford the “the Bus Tour” which is an accelerated 3 day class where you go to a ‘HyperMarket’ and do walk throughs to determine the constructural integrity of the homes in a neighborhood, plus 1 -2 years of mentorship by professional.
    (You are promised the opportunity to pick up 10-20 deals during this engagement. )
    You are also promised to walk 10 -20 homes as well as intense trainging seminairs. There’s a promise to have Hard Money Lenders, Private Money Lenders, construction teams, and realtors available to help you want to purchase any of the homes in the neighborhood.
    Now here is the best part. You can get all of this for the Low Price of $34.995.00 . YES 35 Thousand Dollars!.
    In addition you have to get you own Hotel and pay foryour meals and airfare. The next bus Tour is in California.
    They quickly turned into money hungry salesmen when I pressed that I wasnt interested in using my own funds to proceed with this business. What happened to the No Money Down process of byung homes — That and the other concepts they spent 2 days discussing went out the window! As I was advised that I did not have the knowledge to go out and buy a property without the bus tour and the mentoring program.

    let me sum it up for you
    DO Not Fall for the GIMMICK.
    And when the folks in the seminar refused ater the team had deemed them finanancially able to to do so; they were called idiots and dumb. They told the husband who was there with his wife that he had no balls. That he should standup and be a MAN.
    because some of us refused the package; the instructor was so enraged that he blurted out profanity; called folks idiots, wus for not wanting to seize the opportunity. He was not able to finish teaching the class- he didnt finish the promised coursework. So I reallt felt cheated;

    Now they maybe legit but it was a sales seminar not a ‘how to’ workshop. I would like to have had instructional manual and workbooks, and a detail sylabus;. And a course with more structure. i would love to attend the Bus Tour but I just dont think it is educationally or econmically sound investment.

    Comment by bratt — February 21, 2011 @ 4:26 pm

  263. If anyone, after reading this thread, is still convinced that Montelongo is legit, please contact me. I happen to know the Secret of Everything and would be willing to share this wonderful secret with you for HALF of what Montelongo charges. The Secret of Everything will transform your life in ways you cannot comprehend. The air you breathe will be sweeter and the food you eat will taste better. Not only that, the Secret of Everything will instantly make you (not in any particular order) a chef, an auto mechanic, a mime, an Octagon fighter, a cyborg and a concert pianist. In addition to the above, The Secret of Everything will allow you to read minds, juggle chainsaws, increase the size of your penis and it will grow hair like Stalin’s on ANY head. Why settle for a paltry million dollars being offered by Mr. Montelongo when the Secret of Everything I am offering at HALF THE PRICE of a Montelongo seminar will make you a BAJILLION, GAZILLION dollars almost overnight. How can I make such a claim, well it’s quite simple actually! I use ALL CAPS on the really important parts of my post.

    Some of you might be wondering where I found the Secret of Everything. I stumbled upon the secret when I was in my early twenties while I was working as yard-jockey model and part-time, professional housecat wrangler. One day as I was driving from an eight hour gig at my yard-jockey model job, I had a terrible car accident and was thrown from the vehicle into a stream. I think the reason I wrecked was because my arm was so tired after holding that stupid lantern for 8 hours. Anyway, back to the story. Once I hit the stream, my body was carried away by the raging water. I must have blacked out because when I awoke, I was laying in a trash strewn bank of a river near a city of some sort. I crawled and scratched my way up a steep enbankment and found myself in front of a Hooters Restaurant. My clothes were shredded and I was covered in mud and bleeding. I staggered into the Hooters for help. When I walked into the lobby a few of the Hooters girls began screaming and before I could say anything some big guys came over, grabbed me and threw me back down the ravine I had just climbed out of moments before. Needless to say, I was in shock and about to give up when I heard a small voice coming from an old bottle of Mad Dog near my head as I lay on the bank of the river. As I listened closer, it appeared the tiny voice was singing “rollin’ down the road smokin’ Indo sippin on Gin & Juice…laid back…with my mind on money and my money on my mind”. I instantly recognized the catchy tune as being by Snoop Dog. I grabbed the bottle and peered inside. Let’s just say that I was stunned, amazed and frightened to my very core by what I saw…

    So any of you that want to hear the rest of the story, just send me an email and I will reveal exactly what it was that day I found in the bottle of Mad Dog on that muddy, river embankment outside the Hooters on Route 8 and how this AMAZING discovery can help you in your life.

    Lastly, after I send the Secret of Everything there is a follow-up call from a mentor that will “get their hands dirty with you” as you begin to use the Secret in your own life. You can, of course, upgrade your knowledge by purchasing the second part of the course that we only reveal to those that bought the first part – The Secret of Everything AND MORE!!!!!!!!!!!

    Call now! My lazy brother-in-law is waiting for your call!

    Comment by Vinnie From Indy — February 26, 2011 @ 2:46 pm

  264. I purchased his course about a year ago. the course is full of the usual success stories and vague concepts . It is mostly him telling his story. In the end he tries to get you to buy coaching which cost thousands of dollars. I returned the course before the trial ended and he promptly refunded my money Bottom line don’t waste your time or money. My advice is if you really want to invest in real estate go to a community college and take as many courses as you can afford. Get a real estate license will help as well as taking a course in home inspection and appraisal. Don’t buy books or courses online , because most are scams. These guy’s make their money from selling books not in actual real estate deals

    Comment by Doug M — March 7, 2011 @ 3:25 am

  265. It’s truly amazing how easy it is to fool people, I have been a real estate investor and a lot of hard work and many disappointments have come and gone, yes there is money in it, and of course a lot of hard work, But when I have run into people with expensive clothes and a nice car I always remember the one who almost ran out of gas in his jag and his credit card would not go through, so he rummaged thru the ashtray to get a couple bucks in it.
    I am not knocking his situation I have been there but never pretending I was not! Mr Montelongo is using what a lot of people do
    shock value, intensive high pressure advertising and all of this with that cockiness that some people dream of being able to use.
    I have been blessed with many contractors who have been patient and even kind when things were down, I am proud to say that I never stiffed one and that I can call them at anytime and get them doing work on an honor basis, that only works with when you treat people the way you want to be treated, not by berating them and mocking them and short changing them. Kudos to the website and its owner its relieving to see a lot of the info here and my heart goes out to those who have been “mondoed”

    Comment by Invstr396 — March 10, 2011 @ 2:28 pm

  266. Vinnie! that is hysterical, tell me you are a comic!! I have been searching for that secret all my life!! ROFL!!!!

    Comment by Invstr396 — March 10, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

  267. This guy is a complete scammer, his sidekicks all showed up in Madison,wi and for as broke as we are people stiil paid to learn his trick. When they just really set you up, first they get your credit better, teaching how to fix little things, acting like they want to help you, when they just want you to have a large credit line so they can swipe $1500-$40,000 on your card………..omg 40k to learn how to acess a home for damage and low ball everyone until you get that gem, not!! for $500 you can take a home insection class at your local community collage and start from there, bottom line you will need money to buy the house and fix it up, no lender is giving you money on a moldy, trashed dump site, pick a half decent house fix it up some, not to much or you will over see your budget…………WE CAN DO THIS,
    Mr flipperdo

    Comment by Mr Flipperdo — March 22, 2011 @ 2:23 pm

  268. you know, i am so sick and tired of people being mislead with all this hype which turns out to be crap. someone needs to put an end to it today – one scam after another people are starving here – why the heck are they continuously allowed to defraud the public – what, if your stupid enough to place trust in someone it’s your problem, that’s the american way ? fantastic country we live in – god bless america

    Comment by jay — March 22, 2011 @ 9:10 pm

  269. First of all, Vinnie from Indy–way to go! I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

    Now, on to my comment:

    I recently went to one of his free “seminars,” the sole purpose of which was to coerce people into buying his $1500 course–which was supposedly at a “massive” discount. Numerous pressure tactics were employed. The room had about 75 people, and they announced that there were only 7 slots available in the course. (Get your spot while you can!!!) This was all before they told you how much it cost. AM’s lead huckster for this event, L, actually managed to produce real tears when talking about how his kid had been diagnosed with diabetes a decade before, and how he had lost “everything.” (This supposedly occurred despite being trained by a multi-millionaire how to flip houses, and a decade of success.) My guess is that by far the most money AM and his crew make is from conducting seminars. Apparently, about 100 people attend each one, all of whom fork over $1500. (The actual number of paying people may be closer to 50 since each paying person can bring a guest.) So the gross revenues for each event are about $75,000-150,000. Out of this, I estimate expenses are in the neighborhood of $10,000 to 20,000. Not a bad chunk of change for 3-4 days’ work. Plus, the seminar business appears to operate as a franchise, with multiple players conducting them around the country. This seems like a good business model for AM.

    If you can line up investors, really have a big network, know your market thoroughly, are extremely dedicated, and live in the right place, there is actual money to be made flipping houses. But if you possess these qualities, my guess is that you don’t need AM’s course.

    I’d rather spend my money on Vinnie’s “The Secret of Everything” course!

    Comment by Bob — March 22, 2011 @ 10:53 pm

  270. Bob, I’m not sure but on “flip this Lawsuit” the same thing is wrote but under the name ” JOHN ” , did you cut and paste it?
    it was the real tears line that stood out. the also have a guy with half his right ear hanging off and bald, ugly purple shirt, and a smart mouth, he thought he was getting money from us…….not!
    I just hope the name is a fake one bob, john or whoever you are?

    Comment by Mr Flipperdo — March 23, 2011 @ 8:01 pm

  271. If you are ever asked to bust out a family picture before they ask is your life and family worth making millions? then spend $40,000 with us……………you’re about to be scammed!!

    Comment by Mr Flipperdo — March 23, 2011 @ 8:11 pm

  272. Mr. Flipperdo (which I assume is your real name. A member of the extended Tallahassee Flipperdo family, I take it). My name is John Bob, kind of like the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts.

    Comment by Bob — March 24, 2011 @ 3:50 pm

  273. I attended a free seminar hosted by AM. His ace was in full swing when I arrived. I was told that it would be a meeting of millionaires (that’s another story). Various crew members were introduced with impressive titles (Tax Expert, Former Bank Executive, etc. When I asked to speak to the “Tax Expert” one associate told me I had to wait until he (TE) finish the presentation that was scheduled next. I returned to my seat. I heard a lot of commotion from the rear where the “Experts were filling out applications while the seminar was still in progress. “Then I noticed the Tax Expert talking with some gentleman at length. I was furious and returned to the associate who had previously told me that I had to wait until after the “TE” had finished giving his presentation. I wanted to just ask the “TE” a simple question about how to get money out of a 401B to invest in the Real Estate Course. His eyes bucked and flickered at my desire to get money from my retirement to invest with them. He then informed me, “We are all Tax Experts.” Red flags went up but I kept my cool and continued to discuss coming back at the 6:00 pm meeting with the intentions for being able to move on the $1,500.00 investment deal they were offering for TODAY ONLY. The regular price was $3,000.00. The seminar presenter promised that within 48 hours of taking the 3 day course you would be guaranteed ONE MILLION DOLLARS in credit to purchase property (RED FLAG!!!RED FLAG!!!RED FLAG!!!) Let’s just say that I have had my share of scams from more real estate deals than I care to mention. So I decided to do a little research. And I hit the ‘MOTHER LOAD’ using Google’s Search. I want to thank all of the victims who were courageous enough to share their stories on this blog. I just hope that those unsuspecting, innocent, hard working folk in Nashville will read this blog and RUNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!


    Comment by rap — April 13, 2011 @ 3:03 pm

  274. Wowww!! Very interesting comments that I have just read. I recently ordered and received his book for 24.99. I read it, found it to be somewhat readable. His life story on one page and his flipping story on the other. After reading almost every write up above. I am less than impressed with his way of conducting himself,(according to what I have read.). They say don’t always believe everything you read??. Armando if you do read these, which I hope you do.You should take everything very seriously. There are some really serious statements that are made about you and how you run your business. I was and still part of me is still a believer in your “system of flipping”” But I will now investigate further before I hand over a large amount of $$$$$$ to you or anyone for that reason., For all that have been scammed by him, my sorrows go out to you. Like you I was,and still am a believer in a better way, quicker,but still willing to work harder-smarter than physically. We all now that thats how this world is really put together. With bronze as well AS BRAINS. Is there anyone out ther who has looked into Dean Grazios Insiders edge. I’d be curious to find out if theres a connection???????????

    Comment by Steve — April 13, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

  275. hi i just left the same flip house to get rich and thank god i did give money to this man because when i was in the hall making up my mind a couple was looking him up and it was unreal what pop up so for any one go to this seminar its a scam

    Comment by ms milwaukee — April 15, 2011 @ 12:39 am

  276. MS MMilwaukee. This seems to be the real deal with this dude. Who was the presenter?? Did they also show pics of there wives and talk about how they do 30 to 40 deals a month. How about that deal for the class, 3000.00, 1495 if you sign up now.

    Comment by Steve — April 16, 2011 @ 12:38 pm

  277. What a jack ass!! Look into Dean Graziosi. Seems to be a better route to take. I read his write ups from others and a much better review. Of course there are always bad reviews from people ,but not even 1/10th the complaints. Good Luck and let me know what you think. He puts out Daily blogs and updates with his courses and students

    Comment by Steve — April 16, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

  278. The people who have received his e-book, why don’t you scam him and download it and email it to the people that want it. That way no one else has to pay for it. I certainly would like a copy of it.

    And if you can’t download it, print it and take it to a kinkos type place and have it scanned and made into a pdf and email it to people.

    email it to me at:

    Comment by John — April 16, 2011 @ 11:43 pm

  279. We just returned from Armando Montelongo’s seminar. I do have to say he has some very enthusiastic and convincing speakers. I was all over this real estate business at first, but when I raised my hand to ask a question I was waved off and told to wait a second, as were several people. Then a person spoke out without asking to get their question in only to be told, “I’m going to get to that question in a minute and later was the entire seminar later before the question was addressed. Another person’s question was answered with the same response as the one before except the speaker followed that person’s wave off to wait with; does anyone else have any questions to ask that I am already going to answer in just a few minutes if they would have waited to find this out? Or something to that affect. Of course no one had anything they wanted to ask at that point due to his rude comment and insinuation that he could read our minds and new what everyone’s questions and would have any their answers in just a few minutes.

    He never did come back to me to be sure he had answered my question and waited until the end before raising my hand again to no avail. When he was finished my significant friend and I were discussing his behavior and the fact that I was correct about his scenario regarding the lady seller who needed to get out from under her house payment so he offers to “HELP” her out by having her sign over the title of her home to him so she doesn’t have to wreck her credit. However she is still the only one liable for the loan, she entrusts him with the title of her home to do the right thing for her by his word. Then via a Legal transaction call a Land Trust which freezes the loan so that the bank can no longer take any legal action on the property and gives the guru all control over the property. The Guru is “HELPING HER” and gives her $1000 to get her to move out of her home, (as if that is enough to cover moving expenses and rent somewhere). The Guru is going to sell her home for her to pay off her loan and relieve her of this debt. Ya hopefully it sells right away. As I said she is still the liable one on the loan, not the Guru. Guru is jus the middle man. At the end of the scenario he tells how this “Land Trust” Legal procedure involves 13 Legal documents drawn up and filed (Attorney required, + filing fees to the sum of 25,000.00). I wanted to know who is covering those costs? Remember this whole thing was to save the ladies credit so she would be able to buy a less expensive home after the old loan was paid off. What he didn’t explain is that “LAND TRUST” is a procedure similar to giving a family member Power of Attorney over your assets except it is limited to just the only asset. However giving up or signing such a thing now labels the lady as no longer competent to handle her own affairs, thus no Bank, Mortgage Co. or any type of loan co. is going to ever give her a loan again. None of them will work with her after filing a “Land Trust” as they OBVIOUSLY WILL NOT want anything to do with her after that. She may as well file Bankruptcy at least with a Bankruptcy the cost is only $1500. And you will be able to get a loan again, but it will be a high interest rate until you prove your trust worthy and financially capable.

    We purchased nothing and our sandwiches came in folding boxes with fruit cup, cookie, big sandwich and a soda for free. That was very nice. I was pleasantly surprised. We are supposed to get a free MP3 Player; however there is small print indicating if product is unavailable it will be substituted with a similar product. We will have to see what we get and write back later.

    Comment by teetee — April 20, 2011 @ 3:55 am

  280. teetee- you are out of your mind! 25K to file a land trust? that is absurd! you should do more research.

    you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. I have been to the seminar and have purchased his program. They explain everything to you step by step and teach you how to be successful. A lot of people just dont have the balls to take a risk and go out and do it. Everyone wants it handed to them. I went and met him personally and have been working for 6 months following his system and using mentors. In that time I have flipped 15 houses for over 600K in profits. You see, Im a go getter and while everyone wants to sit here and complain, you are going to stay poor because you fear failure more than you desire gain. He never says hes going to do it for you, and its not a get rich scheme by any means. his program just teaches you how to do it.. it is up to you to go out and do it.

    Comment by JB — April 23, 2011 @ 9:14 pm

  281. a couple of my brother in laws went to armandos 3 day workshop. boy did he suckered them in with his sob story and promise of making 100 thousand in 3 months. they’re about to spend tens of thousands to go flip a house with armando. these guys pist me off cus they’re trying to get money from my sisters.

    Comment by anonymous — April 24, 2011 @ 1:32 pm

  282. You gotta be kidding me..oldest scam in the book…those who can do…….thsoe who cant, teach ..por lots of $$!

    Comment by Joe Runner — May 7, 2011 @ 10:10 pm

  283. JB (or more likely AM), you have used the 3 most popular scam techniques known. 1st You fain concern: you are out of your mind! 25K to file a land trust? that is absurd! you should do more research.
    2nd You belittle: you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.
    3rd Lastly you overstate (lie) about how great the scam (scammer-AM) is: I have been to the seminar and have purchased his program. They explain everything to you step by step and teach you how to be successful. In that time I have flipped 15 houses for over 600K in profits.

    Comment by WTF? — May 9, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

  284. Hi, Everyone thank you i was gonna take my money to buy a car he is a sucker not me . Armando prices have really went up in Scottsdale ,Arizona his price is2,9995 and bring a friend for free.No phone No. to check with the BBB Now a days people will hurt you for there last money to help their family he is going straight to hell all the people were ELDERLY people except me and two other people i brought my Neighbor who just lost her Husband she was gonna take her insurance Money and do it but i said lets go home and Check him out first and see how many people are suing him FAT SUCKER!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Rose — May 20, 2011 @ 3:16 am

  285. my husband and his father went to the free seminar in Greenville sc earlier this year, my fatherinlaw decided to pay the 1475 for the 3 day seminar, I accompanied my husband and was a sceptic from the start, our main speaker was Jim Harris, he’s also worked on a similar scam with Trump University, the first day was alot of hoopla about how saps who work for a living are losers and you can make millions sitting at home..b***s**t. No refreshments were provided until the afternoon apart from coffee and water, the second day they drop the bombshell 35,000 for a bus ride, trying to get you to up your credit card limit and get loans to pay for it.
    they had some young buck talking about himself and his sucess, occasionally some useful information, lunch the second day was 30 minutes. Then day three, I was ready to leave at the end of day one but stood by my husband,,,they ere really only interested in the mugs who were paying the 35,000 for the “bus tour”…same one as 2-3 years ago I guess..and the mp3 players which were given out at the end…don’t work,cheap crap you get in those vending machines. should of given out I pads to make up for wasted time and money. We emailed the company trying to get our fatherinlaw’s money back, that was 2 months ago still no reply from the website..funny huh..would love o hear from anyone else who went to that 3 day seminar in greenville and went to california,are you wealthy yet???

    Comment by karen — May 26, 2011 @ 11:41 am

  286. I was going to go to a seminar next weekend. I was hoping it wasnt a bunch of blah blah blah, like so many others, and he was honest like he states in his ad. I think all of the people that push the real estate buying programs are pretty much the same. They make it sound a lot less difficult than it is. I dont like the scamming of other people to make a profit at all. Well guess what, I am not going now. Thanks for all the comments.

    Comment by Linda — July 27, 2011 @ 8:59 pm

  287. After reading the lengthy comments about Montelongo, I became very discouraged about attending his seminar. These people can sound very convincing, which made me realize how gullible I can be at times. His seminar was missing reality, since he spoke of illegal ways to make money. I just want to say thank you for uniting together to discuss your encounters with Armando and saving me $1,500.00.

    Comment by Lucy Oquendo — August 4, 2011 @ 10:15 pm

  288. I am horrified right now my boyfriend is with Armoando right now in Riverside, California at a conferenc. He has invested a lot of money in this scam right now I cannot even tell him it’s a bad idea he will flip on me. Armando has them dressing up in all kinds of get-ups banging on buckets while supposedly teaching them about rea estate. They had belly dancers, people went out and bought fabric to dress up in, women are jumping in the pool half-naked in order to win the money they spent on his videos which is $1,500 at this point and then another $25,000 to go on a tour he calls it. They are staying at the Marriot Hotel spending their own money on rooms and supposedly learning about how to flip houses. He had them sign a waiver to not disclose what they are doing there at this moment. The tour was broken down into a speech from Armando that starts every morning at 9am then after 9pm they party at the hotel until 2am. I told him this makes no sense, but he is convinced by Armando that millionares live like this all the time. He beleived that he would come back wth a house, I just asked him about that and he said no that he would not have a house when he got back just leads on where to get them and how to get the money from the banks……………..ugh!!! I do not wish any bad will but this sounds like it will end ugly. I do not know if I should even disclose a much a I said so fr I do not want my boyfriend to find out that I did some research on Armando. Armando told him that he has a lot of “enemies” “haters” and that is fine to say bad things about him and that his program works! He breaks all these people down into two groups and at the a group will win the others $1,500 plus their $1,500 back and my boyfriend told me their group won. So I ask when will you back your money he said they will send him an email in three days as to where they get the money. As much money as he claims to have why couldn’t he give them their money in cash. What is the $25,000 for if you do not come back with a house and also why would it cost so much to go look at other houses, party, and learn the business? Why didn’t the $25,00 cover their hotel stay????

    Comment by Felicia Williams — August 8, 2011 @ 5:46 am

  289. Reading this blog saved me from getting my dreams crushed. I have flipped 1 house ON MY OWN……but…..I thought any “free” education would not hurt my business. I am not a fan or follower of AM or his show. I have only seen it air a few times since the start. However, after reading these post, I have decided NOT to attend the live seminar in my home town of Louisiana (today). I have my own hopes and dreams for my family, and I believe that I can make money in real estate. I do not need to cloud my own personal convictions and dreams of a better future with a bunch of “get rich quick” and “give me your money” garbage! Thank you kind people for sharing your stories!!!!!

    Comment by flipping out in the south — August 11, 2011 @ 11:10 am

  290. This guys is a real turd! He is one of the reasons the economy is in this mess. Preys on the weak and innocent. It is very sad but true. I just saw him adverstising his frad on a infomercial. His commercian show paid clients to praise his crap. The footnotes on his commericials even state results are unusual. He is such a fraud.

    Comment by Sam — August 27, 2011 @ 11:40 am

  291. This guys is a real turd! He is one of the reasons the economy is in this mess. Preys on the weak and innocent. It is very sad but true. I just saw him adverstising his frad on a infomercial. His commercian show paid clients to praise his crap. The footnotes on his commericials even state results are unusual. He is such a fraud.

    Comment by Tom — August 27, 2011 @ 11:41 am

  292. Just went through 3 days of intensive training learned a lot not saying this is a cure all in 25 years of contracting custom homes and spec building also developingup to 60 lots at at a time there are going to be times when you want to pull your hair out dont take it out on those around you enough lecturing I am by the way a liscensed contractor I am going on the bus tour in dec of 11 my buddy paid for it if we buy any props im staying there Ihave people there Ican stay with hard work watch your subs and go sleepless until they sell forgive my internet skills always paid someone you dont get something for nothing Ihope this works alittle too much hard sale a little more empathy and love this buisness has been good to me its a lot of hard work never flipped a house will keep in touch ps always have mentors call me back quickly god bless all

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  294. I know someone who has fallen hook, line and sinker…. I just hope he can see thru the hype..I had no idea that the whole Armondo Montelongo classes and bus tours were so expensive and does it stop there? or does he keep getting money from his “students”? I wish he would have just taken the time to do some research

    Comment by kay — January 19, 2012 @ 3:11 pm

  295. I just attended a seminar. It sounded good – needing people to do some hard work after learning how to do it; with the idea there is financial help to get it done once you’ve found the right properties. After reading this, I am wondering if there is a good firm out there that works this concept?
    Please advise.

    Comment by Tara — January 28, 2012 @ 2:51 pm

  296. dorothy drake if your that stupid you deserve to be ripped off

    Comment by Anonymous — February 16, 2012 @ 6:44 am

  297. I just did the 3 day seminar. It was not lead by Armando himself and he never attended it all all. It was lead by 1 lead speaker and 3 helpers who you could tell were being groomed to be lead speakers. I was very dissapointed with the training it was not worth the money I paid. I will have to satisfy myself with the few things I picked up during it, the workbooks, CD’s (not video CD’s audio only) 3 nights hotel stay and a couple of paid lunches, soda and cookies.

    Is was alot of personnal talk about the speaker’s life experience (he was a realtor, had previous experience buying investment property). He spent most of the time discussing flipping houses in other states around the country. I and 20+ others attended in CA and were all from the central valley. He never discuss sernarios in our specific areas which I was lead to believe and never walked us through a process of flipping 1 house as we were told in the initial seminar. What they did was give lots of ruff and I mean ruff examples (this guy’s writing was horride) on how to estimate if a house had room for flipping. They also explained alot about how to ” Control everything but Own nothing” as we if we already had succeeded in flipping homes. Lots of senarios on “Power Team” the levels of networkers (who collect fees) you need to succeed. The talk always lead up to as if everything was done in bulk. More than 1 house, #12 houses, #100 of houses.

    All this while selling the idea of a bus trip to have the oportunity to spend personnel hands on training with Armando to walk through finding houses and personnly shown how to estimate and meet his established network of cash investors, realtors, lawyers, contractors and other students for a small price of $31,495 includes 1 year of mentoring or $41,495 for 2 years of mentoring with his experienced staff. 2 people out of the 20+ bit the hook. For their sake I pray and hope they get a return on their money.

    Comment by Yolanda — February 20, 2012 @ 12:56 am

  298. There are a lot of really good comments by people who – unfortunately – learned too late that there’s no free lunch – Oh, maybe the lunch was free – but anything else they bought into was
    BS and expensive. Its really hard to understand how there are so many really, really stupid people out there who are willing to part with their hard earned money for what is – has to be – a scam! If they can come up with thousands of $$ for some of this crap?? Why can’t they see how bogus this really is? Is there pie in the sky? Is there really a Santa Claus? Does the Easter Bunny REALLY deliver little baskets of colored hard boiled eggs and chocolate candy? S*** people – get your heads out of your asses! These people – whoever the hell they are, are total, outright crooks!! Now, I must admit, I watched the show every week, and really enjoyed it – well, really, I enjoyed seeing Veronica and Melina! They were hot, hot hot. Sorry, but my testosterone took over there for a minute. But, they were hot, hot hot! Armando is an a******, and much worse, as many have mentioned. Typical male, Hispanic macho bullshit – too bad so many have fallen for his act. Including so many women!!

    Comment by Carl Kaye — February 24, 2012 @ 2:55 am

  299. Thank you for this site, this really opened my eyes to AM, I read all the comments people made on this site and I am stunned but not surprised, I had this gut feeling about this guy, I heard about him from watching him on the Flipping Houses show. I thank God for this site. I was planning to go to his free seminar in my area which will be starting in 3 hours, I will not be going to his seminar. Thank you again for this site.

    Comment by Shawn — February 28, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

  300. You people are all stupid of course you can’t learn everything in three days y don’t u do what us smart people do and learn for yourself by doing it yourself. IDIOTS but all of u who gave money and are pissed off because it wasn’t what you expected is your own problem stop trying to bring people down.

    Comment by candila — March 31, 2012 @ 9:55 am

  301. I started off looking forward to the Flip This House series. Honestly AM’s behavior and attitude turned me off from the series and made me wonder about the condition of his flipped properties. In some, if not most, episodes, you can see his contractors not insulating properly before drywalling, not exterminating the bugs (esp. roaches) that live in those houses and cutting other corners. So, I googled: AM propery issues…It’s amazing all the legal and financial problems people are having with him and his companies but yet people are still attending his 3-day seminar-let alone the bus tour… It’s amazing to read the comments from 2007 to now (2012) and the same problems same shadiness and discontent are still happening.
    I think the concept for the show is great but after AM’s behavior I’m going to check out the AT, CA and CT Flipp This House ethics…

    Comment by cautiousone — April 7, 2012 @ 11:40 am

  302. I just found out how him and his wife and his crew scam people. I watched a couple of his shows funny as hell they dont know shit about doing it right. Hes a bullshit artist. His company they showed a bunch of people in there and 1 person even covered up his face with his hands so he wouldnt be seen on tv anyways he talks at his buisness just like how he talks on his show and his goofy wife talks the same way too. Hes trying to be a motivasional speaker on buying homes and flipping them that guy randy hes a roofer but hes doing other things too, i see no inspectors dont buy whatever hes selling

    Comment by wilbur — April 28, 2012 @ 5:07 pm

  303. whoever heard of hanging drywall from the bottom up????? lol his shows are stupid his wife is too.

    Comment by wilbur — April 28, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

  304. Not the brightest bulb but listened to my daughter. After asking to borrow some money for AM’s seminar, she said let me check him out. I wanted to be right, came home and googled. To my surprise this web-site came up. Never saw the show. Sitting up late one night, thinking about money in this economy, called for tickets to the seminar. Took my girlfriend. When things are rough we become suckers. We both thought we could do it never thinking it might be a scam. My friend saved me. I was going to pay for it with my card and she stopped me. Now my daughter and this site. Thanks everyone. This is a big world to prey on so I am not surprise so many people are being taken in. Honest people don’t always think of dishonesty. So for all you sofisticated entillegent never had the wool pulled over your eyes smarties, BE WARE !!!!!

    Comment by internet is the man — April 30, 2012 @ 4:08 pm

  305. If u want to learn how to make money get a job stop with a quick fix ur just pissed cause Armando got more money than u its called common sense buy a home fix it yourself not its not brain surgery stop beating down other people buy a house fix it up sell it that’s it its live and learn

    Comment by candila — May 16, 2012 @ 12:43 am

  306. get a darn life. all this theft of service crap is just that crap. it was provein to be a person he never even worked with. sure he is an ass. but hey when you have people that want to take advatage of you in this business you have to be an ass. as far as the deal between he and his brother we only saw that little bit on the show we did NOT see what had been going on before then and that was a long time ago. any way mind your own business that is thier family business. its sad when a man gets a head in this country you all want to kick him down. yall MUST be obama supporterts.

    Comment by getadarnlife — September 1, 2012 @ 3:13 am

  307. Do not give him any money. They will take your $1,495 and scheduling your seminar will not be what you expected…Run, Forest, Run!

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    Comment by Sharon Marie — September 7, 2012 @ 10:21 pm

  308. oh yea BTW if you do go to his bus tours beware of his brother PAUL is a staright A**hole and very cocky. He thinks his S*it doesn’t stink. But other then that most people their are very pleasent and FYI if you do one bus tour they obviuslly will try and sell you on more training I for one was asked to attend the ” master mentor program for 25k” which was on top of the 28k I aready spent. No I did not take that but took what I felt as thoe I needed to learn, from the few people that did actually spend the extra $ they said it wasn’t anything that was promised. So again that will be the only thing I want to bring to future students attention make your own decisions on what you want to spend your hard earned $ on. its your life not mine or anyone else writing comments.

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